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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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I think there is now way too much noise about Frank, or more specifically that Postecoglou will be relieved of his duties, to dismiss it as rumour.

What I struggle with is that a fair number of posters are talking Postecoglou and seemingly ignoring what's best for the club. It was the same with Kane. It's just bizarre to me.

It's about where we want this great club to be, and that's all that should matter.

Is Frank good enough? Well, Postecoglou's argument is that it's taken him a long time to get the chance. Frank has been in the PL,knows the gig, handles himself calmly and seems to generate something worthy of a team on the pitch. What's there not to admire and like?

Let's see how this goes , but we need t strip the personality and noise about Postecoglou and remember it's THFC, first, middle and last.
I do like Frank, but my worry is that he feels a bit Nuno. Likeable bloke, calm and measured in the way he speaks, and can coach I side pretty well, but potentially unable to take the step up to the next level where consistency is key, that being a consistency in getting results whether you're playing well or not.

I'm not saying he can't do it, just that my concern is that he's an unknown in that respect. It's a massive leap from keeping a team up, to having one challenging for top honours domestically, which is essentially what we want.

Having said that, I put Eddie Howe forward as another comparison to Frank in a previous post. Howe is also comparable in terms of his calm demeanor and coaching ability, and he's doing very well ATM. Whether he can take that extra step to consistently getting results, regardless of whether they're playing well or not, still remains to be seen. However, I think we'd all take Howe in a heartbeat right now.

As we've seen for far too many years, every manager is a gamble, regardless of their pedigree. Hopefully, if we do gamble on Frank, or any other manager for that matter, we actually get what we all hope for.
 
How does some melt on twitter know it will be underwhelming? No one has a clue how he will do. He's a decent manager that consistantly has a club with the 18th/19th highest net spend in the prem punching above their weight. Maybe we could get Mourinho back? He's won it all.Serial winners is bullshit, especially at this club. Look at whats worked upto a point and follow that route. For what its worth he wouldnt be in my top 4 but he's clearly a decent coach.

I bet the same person was asking to sack Ange a month ago
 
But then why some melts in here, not saying you, are so validated in their points that Frank is better than Ange when we did the double over them? Our squad were shit too, according to them. Did Frank forgot to adjust his tactics against Ange's who was supposed to have been found out since game 11 of 1st year?
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Gary O Neill did the double over Ange, as did Nuno this season. Thats all pretty meaningless. We can summise an educated guess what we'll be like under Ange next season, we struggle to beat good or even semi decent sides, we get shit loads of injuries, we're coming in at roughly a point per game over a 50 game period now. No one knows how Frank will do with more resources. Again i have some doubts about him, i'd be happier with Glasner or Poch but the #notoFrank stuff is just childish.
 
I feel like the dirty little secret is that it's really been all the Americans supporting Ange from the beginning.

His whole devil-may-care schtick both on and off the pitch is very much tuned to an American sensibility. Whereas there's a lot about the standard rhetoric of English football we find baffling.

There are a lot of things I can be blamed for, but I will not take the blame for Ange.
 
Can't believe how many people on X are still Ange in, fucking demented.

It's like they just accepted losing every week. I actually can't believe how little an effect such an abysmal season has had on such a last amount of the fan base.

Getting battered home and away by practically every PL team we come up against, appalling tactics, not a hint of a winning mentality, carved open time and time again. Ange standing on the touchline looking at the floor. Same old excuses by Ange every week post game, boys worked hard, result wasn't in our favour.

Fuck doing that again next season. Yet our fanbase just shrug their shoulders and go "Ange in".

I've never seen a fanbase twerk for such a shit manager in my life.

The results were diabolical, and so many want to give him a third season. Clowns.

Now they are making out that because Frank hasn't won anything or finished higher in the league, Ange is the better manager.

Frank manages Brentford ffs. I remember when Brentford even being in the Championship was a pipe dream. Now they are an established PL side, and Ange fans are moaning that Frank doesn't have them higher in the table, whilst defending Ange taking a consistent top 6 club to finish 17th.

Mindblowing.
 

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Frank manages Brentford ffs. I remember when Brentford even being in the Championship was a pipe dream. Now they are an established PL side, and Ange fans are moaning that Frank doesn't have them higher in the table, whilst defending Ange taking a consistent top 6 club to finish 17th.

Mindblowing.
Not Ange in particularly but you do know that Brentford’s owner used to work with Brighton’s owner (until they fell out) . They both use the same data techniques - and both are clearly ahead of the game in it.

Potter was thriving at Brighton and now look at him. De Zerbi was thriving at Brighton but his future at Marseille after 1 season is precarious.

How will Frank fare at our shitshow? Hmmm…
 
Can't believe how many people on X are still Ange in, fucking demented.

It's like they just accepted losing every week. I actually can't believe how little an effect such an abysmal season has had on such a last amount of the fan base.

Getting battered home and away by practically every PL team we come up against, appalling tactics, not a hint of a winning mentality, carved open time and time again. Ange standing on the touchline looking at the floor. Same old excuses by Ange every week post game, boys worked hard, result wasn't in our favour.

Fuck doing that again next season. Yet our fanbase just shrug their shoulders and go "Ange in".

I've never seen a fanbase twerk for such a shit manager in my life.

The results were diabolical, and so many want to give him a third season. Clowns.

Now they are making out that because Frank hasn't won anything or finished higher in the league, Ange is the better manager.

Frank manages Brentford ffs. I remember when Brentford even being in the Championship was a pipe dream. Now they are an established PL side, and Ange fans are moaning that Frank doesn't have them higher in the table, whilst defending Ange taking a consistent top 6 club to finish 17th.

Mindblowing.

You say that but the average person is fucking stupid. It’s entirely believable people are sucked in and don’t step back and look at the facts. You only need to look at other aspects of life to see how easy it is to manipulate people. Ange is great at it.
 
Getting humped by Woolwich just once essentially signed Nuno's death warrant but Ange has had his belly tickled by our two biggest rivals 7 out of 8 times of asking and people are just ok with it apparently.

Exactly. I've never seen us bend over so readily for Woolwich and Chelsea as we have under Ange.

Not to mention Everton away, Leicester at home, Fulham away winter 2024, Ipswich home.

But the worst of it all was his Woolwich and Chelsea record. Shocking. Never seen anything as bad as what Ange presided over.
 
Not Ange in particularly but you do know that Brentford’s owner used to work with Brighton’s owner (until they fell out) . They both use the same data techniques - and both are clearly ahead of the game in it.

Potter was thriving at Brighton and now look at him. De Zerbi was thriving at Brighton but his future at Marseille after 1 season is precarious.

How will Frank fare at our shitshow? Hmmm…
Don't really think it's terribly relevant that Brentford have a good data model, and accept that while it will be responsible for at least a modicum of Brentford's success at PL level, Frank's tactical acumen has been equally a vitally important factor. Look at Forest and Gary Cooper, clearly Marinakis had equipped that side with enough talent to stay up with his mad summer spending spree, but required the right fit of manager in Nuno to up the results to the required level. They 100% would have gone down in 22/23 if they had kept faith in Cooper. It wasn't the players he was equipped with, they were the same ones Nuno stayed up with. It was the manager and his tactical approach that kept them safe.
 
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