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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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"One of you cunts"?

Can you please show me a post where I've done anything like what you accuse me of? You'll struggle because it never happened.

What I have said is that cunts who called the manager a "fat cunt" went too far. And I stand by that. And I've slated those who dumped on the Trophy. But I've never once had a go a someone simply for wanting Ange Out. In fact most of the best conversations I've had on here have been with "Ange outers" because some of them, unlike you, are capable of presenting well reasoned and passionate arguments that demand respect.

And in my spurs group I'm the most "ANGE OUT" of the lot.

Just because you're a coward who parties when Ange wins but too scared to say what you really think unlike many good people on here - that's not a "me" problem its a "you" problem. most proper Spurs fans are able to hold two competing thoughts/feelings and articulate them to other Spurs fans.

So please, kindly, fuck off until you can make accusations you can back up with evidence.
you make shit up about me and others and for that alone you're a fucking cunt. i won't even waste the time to catalogue the basement dweller and incel comments and attacks on my life you know nothing about. you're the fucking coward and you wouldn't say any of this shit in person so kindly, with sugar on top. fuck the fuck off
 
how can any cup won by 16th and 17th place teams be something to crow about? i get how it works but with the new format this is what it's going to become. sure fans will love to win but it's going to be league cup level and you don't nuke a season for that or claim it makes relegation form ok.
It's become an assurance for top teams who miss out on CL spots to get back into the CL. There is tremendous value in that (and surely, the political reasons for the CL spot being given and eliminating the drop ins being just that). It's surely a negotiated outcome following the Super League Fiasco.

Yes, the level is lower than the LC. But winning the LC (or even the FA cup) in no way gives as much a reward outside of the fact that you're winning a trophy.

If your league is looking unlikely for a CL contention, it absolutely makes sense to focus on Europa. However, that neither justifies a poor league outing, nor risking relegation, nor even follows Ange's narrative that he sacrificed the league since January for the cup (his team selections in the league don't bear out his assertion until April).
 
Kids are driven by emotion (that’s why they need guidance) and it was the most emotional of experiences for all Spurs fans, old and young alike, so I can understand why some people want him to stay.

However when you break it down logically, IMHO it’s not the correct decision for the club.
That is exactly the convo going on in my Spurs WhatsApp right now :D
 
how can any cup won by 16th and 17th place teams be something to crow about? i get how it works but with the new format this is what it's going to become. sure fans will love to win but it's going to be league cup level and you don't nuke a season for that or claim it makes relegation form ok.
The Butcher addressed our main flaw - basic defending - in the final few EL games and employed tier one blocking up.

He refused to do so in the league.

Amorim's EL performances were far more gutsy, competitive and resilient than his league performances, where he was making stupid, stubborn decisions that didn't work and kept persisting with them and his stodgy tactics.

The teams who would have dropped down, if it was the old format, would not have lifted the overall level of the comp by that much at all.

And, yes, the relegation form is unacceptable.

That's the key here.

Can't have it.

And trying to mug everyone off by saying that was the plan all along is one of the most cringe, desperate, rat-bastard things I've ever heard in my life.

The guy is a total scumbag.
 
It's become an assurance for top teams who miss out on CL spots to get back into the CL. There is tremendous value in that (and surely, the political reasons for the CL spot being given and eliminating the drop ins being just that). It's surely a negotiated outcome following the Super League Fiasco.

Yes, the level is lower than the LC. But winning the LC (or even the FA cup) in no way gives as much a reward outside of the fact that you're winning a trophy.

If your league is looking unlikely for a CL contention, it absolutely makes sense to focus on Europa. However, that neither justifies a poor league outing, nor risking relegation, nor even follows Ange's narrative that he sacrificed the league since January for the cup (his team selections in the league don't bear out his assertion until April).
so top 4 and champions league qualification actually is a good thing to aspire to? can't have it both ways. it either matters or it doesn't and to me it matters. i'm still pinching myself that we nicked it with that cup
 
so top 4 and champions league qualification actually is a good thing to aspire to? can't have it both ways. it either matters or it doesn't and to me it matters. i'm still pinching myself that we nicked it with that cup
It is when you're an Everton, Newcastle, Villa etc, even us back in the late 2000's/early 2010's, and possibly now tbf, but there comes a point when you want more. We've fallen down the pecking order big time the past 4/5 years, with 2022 being a bit of an anomaly at this point, so it's a good thing to aspire to right now for where we're at. When we were a regular top 4 side, just doing that wasn't enough. We were at the top table at that point, but not winning anything, so it's fair to want all 3. The top 4/cl became the expectation, and winning something alongside that should've been the aspiration. We never quite got there, and in our worst season in half our fans lifetimes leaguewise, we went and won a major trophy. Classic fucking Tottenham.

I think given where we are right now, aspiring to be a top 4 side again is fair.
 
I would take finishing 17th if it meant winning a Champion's League, yes. :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
Why?

You're so full of emojis, but if you don't mind in actual words, why? The opposite side if the hypothetical isn't that Spurs never win anything, so I'm in no way saying that I don't want trophies, I'm saying I don't want another season of losing at home to the Ipswichs and Leicesters of the league.

What's this line for you, how do you balance this? What would you expect the following season, another CL win whilst just avoiding relegation?

Would you take losing every single CL game for the rest of time, in exchange for winning the league every season?

You're so hung up on calling anyone that doesn't like the idea lunatics, but you seem to be missing the main point (of mine at least) that I want Spurs to be good! Good in CL, good in the league, good in the domestics. Do that and trophies will come naturally.

Spurs being good increases the chances of winning multiple trophies in future, good teams don't finish 17th in the league, poor teams can fluke a cup though.
 

it's not about being hard it's about talking shit online that you'd never do in person and then calling everyone else basement dwelling incels. i wouldn't talk like this to anyone in person hard man or not

Does it surprise you that I completely agree with this sentiment but that it's YOU that I consider to be the insane pretend hard man keyboard warrior banging on about "cultists" (still hard to know who this mythical group of people are beyond harry7 and a couple of others on here but whatever)...

And the more you slag off the Trophy while having dared to celebrate it the less I think of you.

Get this through you'r fucking skull - I am not even "Ange in". Im just a normal fan who gets on with other normal fans whether they are Ange in or not. I only have problems with people who post shite.
 
We also beat City away 4-0. Would we not take Pep either?

I think Frank would be a sound and sensible appointment. Not sexy, but honestly what we need right now. Sign me up.
May be sensible and we prbly all want Ange out but I think we need some proven quality. Same with transfer we don’t want or need Tel we need mbueno abd players like. For manager to me only one candidate in the PL and that is glassner. Also Frank may be a good coach but do we want to style again? Levy said when appointed Ange that he plays more in the Tottenham way although the Europa cup games would say otherwise. Is Frank going to play front foot attacking poccesion based football?
 
Why?

You're so full of emojis, but if you don't mind in actual words, why? The opposite side if the hypothetical isn't that Spurs never win anything, so I'm in no way saying that I don't want trophies, I'm saying I don't want another season of losing at home to the Ipswichs and Leicesters of the league.

What's this line for you, how do you balance this? What would you expect the following season, another CL win whilst just avoiding relegation?

Would you take losing every single CL game for the rest of time, in exchange for winning the league every season?

You're so hung up on calling anyone that doesn't like the idea lunatics, but you seem to be missing the main point (of mine at least) that I want Spurs to be good! Good in CL, good in the league, good in the domestics. Do that and trophies will come naturally.

Spurs being good increases the chances of winning multiple trophies in future, good teams don't finish 17th in the league, poor teams can fluke a cup though.

Ffs the hypothetical is a simple "yes". Who on earth wouldn't take a CL for the "cost" of a single year finishing 17th? It's... just nailed on so you're clearly not thinking rationally.

Obviously we would all prefer to finish top 2 and win stuff but why even bother asking that?

Come on mate
 
you got me unblocked shady stan?

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