If those were available more of the season we’d have finished higher than 5th
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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If those were available more of the season we’d have finished higher than 5th
I think those kind of stats - including those that affect Ange - present that argument that a manager initially benefitted from a squad or coaching, and then the effect dissipated. For example, with Conte he usually loses the dressing room before he leaves, which has an influence on the performances of the players.
Its apples to oranges to compare us to his other jobs. I don't think he'd have done any better at Man Utd, for example, as a team that had lots of money and support but is suffering from no longer being able to bully the rest of the league financially.
There is not a single way to prove that either way so its moot.
he has never managed a club of our size in the CL - he is wildly inexperienced for what we need.
That's fine. I'd be quite happy to see him given the chance with more resources as I think he's earnt the right to test himself. Just as I was with Ange at the start, I was one of the voices getting irritated with the negativity from the start in the start of this very thread.
That said, obviously that has resulted in a bit of a mixed bag so I'm not the best judge obviously.
I think that most of those ‘Thomas Frank’ fans firstly, agree with you that Ange has to go as we (I include myself) see Frank as a better coach who can bring more entertaining football for the fans than what we’ve seen over the last 18months or so.
However, if there was a better manager (other than Frank) available, someone like Glasner or Alonso or Hoeness, then I think most of those same fans would likely have picked one of those three over Frank. Well, I would anyway.
Well it’s nearer the start than the end in my book!
Stop being a pedant!
IMO that’s Spring unless you are Chinese and then it’s the start of the new year
December to March, the PPG was 1.9 which is very decent. It wasn’t as exciting as the first 10 games when a title charge was the form if it continued but right up until we smashed Villa at Villa park, it looked like Ange was going to get top 4 without Harry Kane
I do have to chime in here and say neither had Poch or Harry, and they both gave us performances in the CL beyond our wildest dreams.
respectfully, he cupped his ear to us and mugged us off. i've prob said some things i regret but i think ange brought so much of the abuse on himself. i'm not justifying it but there's a reason you don't see managers taunting their own fans very often.
Other than finishing 7 places above us on a fraction of the budget!
Which conjecture, and only serves a distraction from the point that Ange had a different XI for the vast majority of the season to what was in that tweet.
i think it's a discussion about if you lose 22 times should you get to keep your job
And what’s the PPG March ‘24 to May ‘25?
Random fact about Oliver Glasner:
He's played Villa 5 times in all comps since taking over Palace and has 4 wins and a draw, 16 goals for, 4 against.
Some good ebenings.
He's played Villa 5 times in all comps since taking over Palace and has 4 wins and a draw, 16 goals for, 4 against.
Some good ebenings.
Probably pretty shit
Wow....This is quite rankMore than one way to lose one's cherry my friend
True. I was trying to make a different inference and missed the mark badly.
Only for people who don't seem to be able to move on from that and debate the value of other managers.
No he didn't. It's a combined success for everyone at THFC. We win together. We fail together.
Yes. I am laughing.
Yep, Frank is unknown. Ange IS known and IS known to be shit. We'll get spanked out of the champions league by actual football teams and continue to get done every weekend in the PL. This is known. We know. The known is not the way to carry on.
A lot of risk in changing, for anyone. But we have to throw the dice at this stage or we're done.
Frank could win the quadruple and some would still claim this. The utter madness Ange has inflicted our fanbase with is astonishing.
Poch hadn't managed a club of our size in the CL. Or any club in the CL. Or even in a European game AFAIK.
Why the fuck should anyone move on from that?
sure but the debate can't include, 'if we can't get someone good we keep ange'. he has to go