He was our best player on the night for me.
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Match Spurs v Bodo/Glimt (A) - Champions League - Tues 30th Sept - KO: 8pm
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I've watched all our games cheers. We're not as bad as you and others make out.
Anyone is better than Ange.
But we looked good when the season started. Did really well against PSG. Beat Burnley 3-0 and then City.
We looked like a decent side. And what happened then? We've been looking awful since the Bournemouth game.
That defender had a brilliant game
Depends what you compare with. If Ange, it's an extremely low benchmark.
West Ham 0 Tottenham 3
Formation is a red herring IMO, it may hide certain glaring issues and expose others. Still don't like the idea of going 3ATB for extended periods when 1 injury in that formation sees Ben Davies getting serious pitch time atm. Maybe when Dragusin is fit we can experiment with that. Certainly Palhinha has come in and shown instantly how poor our more senior midfielders are, arguably the first CM to come into our team since Dembele who has actually looked worthy of playing for a top 4 side.
Even though I really like guys like Sarr, Gray and Bergvall, we really should have upgraded on Bentancur in the summer to a top 4 quality 8, I didn't really want Gallagher when we were linked but he is legitimately better than all of our midfielders in the 8 role.
Maybe he can, but it is going to take time. You are not going to shrug off finishing 17th, whilst wholesale changes at teh club are going on.
Especially with a man (Levy) that had no idea what he was doing on the football side of things.
As I keep saying all over the place, it's going to take years to sort out properly.
He's spot on hence this type of response.
You literally post just to tell everyone how shit they are as fans. Nobody knows your stance on anything football related because you're not here for that. You're here to start cyber wars because you're bored.
I compare it with playing shit, average or good. I'd give us 6.5 out of 10 so far, 8.5 for resilience.
Need to commit to offense or murderball- this in between Bentancur shit is no good
Even that game we struggled to create clear chances.
Remember our goal came from a corner, not from good open play.
Then they got a red card, and Bergwall scored a flukey goal. I don't remember the third.
But our play in that game was not great.
We started with...
----Bergvall----Bentancur----Sarr----
---Johnson----Richie----Odobert----
A toddler could tell you that was gonna be limited af.
Look at that front 3... it stinks.
We just don't have the players to support the kind of rotation he wanted for this game.
Not with injuries we currently have to solanke and Kolo, especially.
Frank had no problem attacking at Brentford.
Fluidity wasn't an issue.
Whilst he's still getting to grips with the players and who he can trust, to rotate in a way that doesn't completely gut us, we have to give him some time.
We're 4th in the league and 4th in the CL.
Give the guy credit for honouring his words that he's focusing first on making us resilient and difficult to beat.
Doing exactly that.
If we go on and have our players back and we're still not as fluid as we should be, then I'll join you, but for now it's clear we're still a work in progress.
And I doubt we'll ever see that front three starting again.
Rancid.
I spotted that as well couple times.
We should have used that training session yesterday to get familiar with the pitch, especially since tactics we "trained" at hotspur way instead was not effective at all.
Apart from all the comments I've made about the management of tonights game, the performance and my opinions about how we should approach games like this....
What you don't understand is that I only want to talk to people about the actual football are people who actually possess coherent and mature levels of understanding.
You're not one of them. Discussions on footballing matters (with you) is like talking to a child. It's not my job to educate you, and I doubt I could, given the level of your posts
We've been dreadful, not just bad, dreadful. Our fixture list has been a cake walk. We're 4th after 8 games, against teams all bar one we should be beating. We don't have XI injured like last season, which was an anomaly. I was Ange out before you say it.
Come back to me at the end of November and December and tell me how well we're doing, because of we play like this, we're going to get embarrassed.
We have more than enough quality to create anything that isn't a cross, teams much worse than us can. Even Doncaster could've had a couple against us and we made them look good because of how bad we are attacking. Say what you want about Ange, he was able to implement his style straight away. What the hell are we seeing now. I'm sure you were glad to see the back of Nuno, his performances weren't a million miles off these. We've got very lucky in a lot of games so far.
There's not even a hint of cohesive football. That's my issue. We're creating nothing that isn't just getting it out wide and crossing, or set pieces. I'm utterly baffled that this isn't concerning to you.
Poch had us going well when he started. Looking at the results now, not sure where you're plucking this 5 months nonsense out of. Before Christmas we got beat well by City and Liverpool, and by devine intervention lost to West Brom after absolutely battering them all game and their keeper had a career day, that was it. We scored goals, and beat teams well.
Posting stuff like you have is embarrassing.
You're right, it doesn't. This is shite.
Apparently you only get 45 minutes to train on it, Frank didn't think it was worth it given that people would be watching. Who knows?
At any rate, thank god we won't be playing there again this season (or on another similar pitch).