You did... you said he shinned it... and Shaw actually scored which is wrong
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Manager Thomas Frank
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That sounds like the actual opposite of anything I've said.
The search suggests in nearly 15,000 posts on here I've never once used the word 'shinned'
this is the only post I made, which is the opposite of what you're saying
Our squad isn't very good. Our manager isn't currently very good either. It's not either or.
It's not nuanced, and almost all opinion is unsubstantiated.
And to be blunt, I don't think he'd be doing better. If he was, wouldn't be by much. Because the intent in how he sets the team up just wouldn't be different enough. Madison no one to pass to, Solanke no one to play off, Kulu same as Kudus - isolated
I wanted Frank because I thought he was a student of the game?
Knew what was needed against various sides and therefore select the players best to achieve it.
But the big question mark that has been raised for me is does he have the belief and desire from the players to have the same belief ?
Is he asking to much of them or asking things in what they don't believe in, i.e the style, philosophy of the game.
There seems to be too much of an "overthink", puzzle pieces all need to be in the right place before you progress slowing our game down Instead of relying on instinctive play when there's space in front of you, which then fucks up the pre-match jigsaw layed out before hand.
My long -winded point is of course have a game plan but just as a blue print which can be altered when the opportunity provides it self.
Mix laptop football with instinct!
Knew what was needed against various sides and therefore select the players best to achieve it.
But the big question mark that has been raised for me is does he have the belief and desire from the players to have the same belief ?
Is he asking to much of them or asking things in what they don't believe in, i.e the style, philosophy of the game.
There seems to be too much of an "overthink", puzzle pieces all need to be in the right place before you progress slowing our game down Instead of relying on instinctive play when there's space in front of you, which then fucks up the pre-match jigsaw layed out before hand.
My long -winded point is of course have a game plan but just as a blue print which can be altered when the opportunity provides it self.
Mix laptop football with instinct!
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I think it's a similar problem to Conte, to an extent - we're lacking players who are intelligent enough to do what is being asked of them. What will be interesting is if we bring in anyone in the window and something clicks.
What won't be popular, but necessary, will be moving on players that people like but are too thick to play under instruction
Error on my part
. Clicked post before completed. There's a couple more paragraphs should you care to read them in my second post.
What I have seen so far reminds me of AVB, where we get possession and the players look brain dead and start aimlessly passing it backwards and sidewards.Error on my part
Whilst that is a 'current' issue, I think we're going through a necessary phase of having to evolve the players to tactical football, which (as per Eric Dier's interview) they haven't had since Conte. Frank or no Frank this is more like the "painful rebuild" people used to talk about that Poch wanted
And crucially, the managers ideas on how to improve the squad aren’t good enough either.
He’s obsessed with duels when our massive weaknesses is technical ability and passing.
Nuno did well with Wolves and shit at Spurs, Conte added like two players Bentancur and Kulusevski and the team went on a good run of form.
Same players for the most part, so the same intellect, or were Kulusevski and Bentancur signed from Mensa?
Some analysis this.
Took the, more or less, same group of players just weeks to implement Anges style of play? And whatever the view is on Anges style of play, it was very clear to see what our brand of football was, and it clicked almost from the go.
If Franks plan is not absorbable this long into his tenure, it may be that the plan is not the right one? Not the first manager to overthink the game, if that is the case.
Anyeay starting to lose patience with Frank, as I have a hard time seeing what his direction is. Players look disorganized, frustrated and worse, not invested.
We have to be done with buying players specifically for managers.
We're Tottenham. Everyone knows how we want to play. The recruiting team needs to find those players. If a manager doesn't like what he's working with, then Spurs aren't for him.
Do we know that though?
We are talking of a club who over the last decade have hired managers from Nuno and Mourinho, to Anges gung ho..
If there is a Tottenham way of play the club managment itself need to define and implement that first, from top to bottom, incl for youth teams
This bullshit started with the stupid assumption that we needed to go fully over to the dark side, i.e. getting rid of Poch for Jose.
It’s been downhill ever since.
Frank sure has got some serious eyebrows! Not sure I prefer to see him this close up.
View: https://x.com/i/status/2006501419789201469
Think he really needs to speak less about the fans, honestly. It's getting worse the more he tries.
" You play at least, at least 10 shit games and can you win three or four of them 1-0 on a rainy day?"
He keeps saying the quiet part out loud. I don't think any top manager should allows their players to accept that playing bad and losing some games is natural. Sure, it is inevitable that even the best teams will play shit and lose some games every season but that's not something the manager should be openly verbalising or accepting.
Can't imagine Fergie, Klopp, Jose (or even Ange) ever using this type of language. That kinda talk feels a bit too mid-table/Brentford for my liking. It's too accepting of mediocrity.
He keeps saying the quiet part out loud. I don't think any top manager should allows their players to accept that playing bad and losing some games is natural. Sure, it is inevitable that even the best teams will play shit and lose some games every season but that's not something the manager should be openly verbalising or accepting.
Can't imagine Fergie, Klopp, Jose (or even Ange) ever using this type of language. That kinda talk feels a bit too mid-table/Brentford for my liking. It's too accepting of mediocrity.
