You’re trying to bomb the space with extra questions to divert from the original discussion.If you want me to answer your question then no I don't think he is holding any money back and is generally trying to spend as much as we could afford on what he thinks we need but that isn't my criticism anyway...I just don't think he knows how to build and maintain a squad - that is my 'narrative'
Well this is strange because that sentence you've done your best to twist and misconstrued says my argument isn't solely about money and you know this because you've removed all my other points in the same paragraph and on that by the way identifying the right profiles doesn't cost money, you do know what I mean by that don't you? I mean not targeting players like Dragusin if you're looking to play out from the back, not targeting a load of ball carriers when you need passing midfielders in your team, you tell me why is that so difficult and how that actually costs money?
Hopefully that's a question you're gonna answer this time but I won't hold my breath...
I'll happily concede the point about buying ready made players but I still think there was room to move away from the youth project at times...e.g why did we need a 21 year old keeper who had 0 experience in the Prem to replace our first choice keeper who got injured for example?
Already said about the injuries thing which again you seemed to have conveniently missed so once again you can identify risks for example like not renewing Bentancur knowing he's had 2 long term injuries and selling Richarlison for example knowing that he's a sick note...and if you want to go down the youth route focus on players with the same profile for the players who are constantly injured, Maddison/VdV/Udogie/Rich for example, again that doesn't cost more money but at least there's a strategy there.
And I've already proposed the things I'm concerned about but you're not 'all ears' because you just ignored all the points I made in the paragraph you just removed.
And you have the cheek to say I'm avoiding questions when I've asked you this and you've ignored it:
And this and you have ignored it:
Are you trying to hide behind this "club" thing to protect Lange as if he's not calling the shots now? So who is "The club"?
If you want to throw out condescending little jabs about people having low IQs and act like you’re above everyone else be my guest...but if you’re going to do that then at least be prepared to have an actual debate.
So drop the disingenuous crap and argue in good faith for once.
The original discussion was about whether we know enough to hold Lange responsible. If we’re going to discuss whether hes good at his job we have to understand what resources he has and what his objectives are. Those are not completely transparent to us so let’s acknowledge that.
We also need to empathise with the person. That’s not the same as defending someone. It’s too easy to critique from the sidelines. Anyone can complain and we all know moaners in real life - they’re not the first people I would go to for insight. So let’s try to be better than that.
We both agree that Lange has more limited resources than anyone else in the top six. He has about the same amount of money as Villa to spend on wages. So already, that is a healthy degree of mitigation. When I talk about the « club », in that context I’m talking about whoever sets the budgets. I won’t pretend to know who is really calling the shots.
We also agree that he does not coach the players. That is more mitigation.
You have brought up Bentancur and Richarlison. Last summer we had two midfielders going into the past year of their contract - Bissouma and Bentancur. Maybe you would have sold both and brought in a new midfielder. That’s what I would have done on FM too but that was also a risk. Sell your two senior central midfielders and hope the new players hit the ground running?
Richarlison didnt want to go last summer. He made that clear on Instagram. He wants to be Brazil’s #9 and you can’t sell aomeone who doesn’t want to go. There’s a contract to be respected.
But if we’re talking about injuries as an issue, then this is the second season in a row where weve had the most matches missed due to injuries. For that we can mostly give responsibility to the medical team, the analysts, the coaching staff and Scott Munn. Lange is WAY down the list of people responsible for that. We haven’t failed to deal with a normal amount of injuries. Weve failed to deal with an amount of injuries that would cripple any team in the league.
I forgot about the Dragusin window so I take that. Dragusin was a bad signing (although ANOTHER ACL victim and still very young for a centreback). He was 21 when he was signed. Hes just turned 24 a few days ago. But don’t let me disguise the fact that he is a poor stylistic fit and that is on the recruitment team.
In the end, hes looked at the resources he will have to spend unambiguously gone for a long term strategy. It could not be more obvious. If even half the players we have bought develop well then we will have a very good team in 3 years… and most of those players will STILL be years away my from their peak.
Has he made mistakes? Yes. But everyone does. I still think that if we get a ball playing 8 and a couple of players down the left who are first team ready, and a good coach … then we could have a very good team. We shouldn’t be as low as we are. We’re due a bit of luck with both injuries and transfers.