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Management Relegation

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Do you think we'll stay up?

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    Votes: 184 40.1%
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    Votes: 275 59.9%

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3 points coming up versus Fulham....... I really hope i'm wrong but Fulham are shite, we just made them look good, if West ham can play like they have been last month or so against Fulham they will get all the points.

I just know thats gonna happen. Same thing happened the week after the Burnley game. We were held to a draw, then they beat them 0-2 without getting out of second gear.
 
I'm dismissive of it because of the reasons I've stated. These players are shite. But they're not that shite. They'll not be 3 points worse than Forest AND 5 points worse than West Ham across the final 10 matches, and will in all likelihood manage to be at least 2 points better than Leeds across those 10 matches.
You're correct, we're relying on other bottom dwellers to be even worse than our team.

Over the last 5 matches we have earned 1 point, if anything we're getting worse as the season progresses.

What posters are saying is if we carry on with that form, we're heading for relegation. The last time we won a match was in December, and played 11 Premier League matches since then. I think we've had four draws in that time, so 4 points from 11 matches.
 
Fulham took 3 points in the first meeting, and they have now won 4 of their last 7, if you include the cup against Stoke. They are not playing badly at the moment

Agreed, not every team we play is or can be sh!t. Sadly neither do thry need to be brilliant.

We will see tomorrow Simply, come on Fulham.

Meanwhile the same group ntinue to talk ENIC whilst it's all and only about the plplayers and Tudor at present.

I really believe some posters want us to go down to prove their point, possibly the very ones who were nowhere to be seen when we win the Europa.

Just a theory.
 
Richie has got a lot of stick over the years, including from me however if he looks like the only one out there at the minute that knows what this means to the fans, and is giving everything. Fair play Pigeon boy!
He's the only one who has been in a relegation fight and put himself on the line for his team.
The rest are all acting as if it's not their fault and that they don't have to do anything about it.
 
I know xG ain’t the only thing that matters but Fulham consistently outperform the opposition in that stat.

Even in losses, they typically play decent stuff. They lost 3-0 in Feb to City but had a higher xG than City. Lost to United but, again, had a higher xG than them.

They aren’t a bad side. I expect them to take points off West Ham. They are battling for a European place so they have plenty of motivation.
 
They are a strange team. They win in batches. I fear that the most recent batch has ended.
That is certainly the case, they win 3 and then lose 3.

However this myth of a Spam resurgence was formed when they collected wins against Sunderland and Burnley after beating us in January... not exactly running a gauntlet. And they seem to lose every London derby unless it's us.

Agreed, not every team we play is or is. Be sh!t.

Sadly neither do thry need to be brilliant.

We will see tomorrow

Meanwhile the sane group continue to talk ENIC whilst it's all and only about the plsyers and Tudor at present.

I really believe some posters want us to go down to prove their pount, the very 9nes who pribsbmy were nowhere to be seen when we win the Europa.

I could allow the 'relegation would be good for us' talk if it were likely to change anything. It is not likely to change anything really. It will see a number of the wage thieves currently on the squad washed out, but it will not change who owns the club or how they run it. We will simply see another bunch of average players signed and another round of poor management and another year of excuses that somehow we are destitute and we have to sell to buy.
 
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I know xG ain’t the only thing that matters but Fulham consistently outperform the opposition in that stat.

Even in losses, they typically play decent stuff. They lost 3-0 in Feb to City but had a higher xG than City. Lost to United but, again, had a higher xG than them.

They aren’t a bad side. I expect them to take points off West Ham. They are battling for a European place so they have plenty of motivation.

Well We definitely need Fulham to win. In fact we're so bad can only afford west ham to win one more game all season

Which probably be wolves at home at least
 
Yeah, its really hard to see where a win comes from for us. I’m not expecting one until after the international break. If we don’t get some key players back, I struggle to find another win.

Yep, I used to think palace and Forrest at home were certs to win .

But now I don't see it. I can only see a late burst of points home to Leeds and Everton, and a draw away to wolves with Kudus, udogie and bergvall back in the side
Is another 7 points and better gd gonna be enough, might just be
 
Yep, I used to think palace and Forrest at home were certs to win .

But now I don't see it. I can only see a late burst of points home to Leeds and Everton, and a draw away to wolves with Kudus, udogie and bergvall back in the side
Is another 7 points and better gd gonna be enough, might just be
Getting Romero, Udogie, and Kudus back should lift us to the points we need IF we can also keep the players available now on the pitch too.

If they come back to simply replace a VDV or Xavi or Porro injury then we ain’t all that much better off.
 
What are we even doing down here tbh. I doesn't make sense, we've had much worse teams and at worst we'd just be languishing around 12th or something.

Amazing what's happened. Literally From new year's Day to now as we were still picking up the odd win every 3 games.

Edit* looking back through results it literally happened from Sunderland away onward on January 4th. Wgen Kudus was injured....our one tactic :franksmile:
Now I don't think we know how to score
I'm not sure we ever have had a worse team relative to the rest of the league.

Not sure we have ever had less star quality either in attack. That always kept our floor up. We have literally zero magic in attack post-Son.
 
We have enough to get out of this, but we should never have waited so long to get rid of the last manager, who was utterly out of his depth, for what we needed.
But they all say you should give a manager time. We might have given him too much especially when players were openly disrespecting him on the pitch. We know Daniel would have chased him before Xmas. He gave Ramos 8 games and 2 points and then he was gone.
Need to see some improvement on Thursday otherwise Igor might be out on his ear.
We seem to be similar to Forest. They almost got champ lge, think they are good and now find out they are not.
I cannot think who we might get if Igor went.
 
I'm not sure we ever have had a worse team relative to the rest of the league.

Not sure we have ever had less star quality either in attack. That always kept our floor up. We have literally zero magic in attack post-Son.

I do struggle to think of previous spurs teams with such a weak attacking output.
That is of course skewed somewhat by maddison, kulu, Kudus and richarlison injury woes. The later two are still in the 10 ten for goals or assists in the league despite lack of minutes.

VDV Dutch international
Romero Argentina international
Porro Spanish international
Udogie Italian international

The back 4 alone should see off relegation. They're not playing for Macedonia or Albania. These are top top level internationals

It's nuts
 
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