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Management Relegation

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We've shifted down to 3/1 after that result with the bookies. Forest are now favorites to go down 11/10, West Ham 6/5.
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No way he was happy with summer signings. Left a cushty job at Brentford and allowed a couple signings? You’d want 5 or 6 of your players in. We finished lower than I hope we finish this season😬 I’d be furious if I was Frank. He’s allowed one summer signing, a loan and an emergency January signing? We’re supposed to be a massive European club. I’d be fucking raging if that’s all the business allowed to happen.
One? He got Xavi & Kudus for over 100m, an expensive loanee from Bayern he personally requested and got a striker on loan who cost PSG 90m quid 2 years ago. At the time most were rating like 6+/10 for the window. I reckon he was disappointed we didn't get MGW or Eze (if we'd gone it harder we probably could've got the latter) but I don't think he was raging at all.

He then also got a 35m signing in Jan when basically no other clubs outside of City did business. We obviously should've signed more cos of the dire situation, but I reckon he was very happy with the Gallagher signing and seemed visibly overjoyed when we got him.

He could've pushed for different profiles but he was happy with Palhinha and Gallagher - these were guys he signed off and was fine with. He personally requested Palhinha once Woolwich got Norgaard.

Like, by big club standards it obviously hasn't been great, but by Spurs standards I'd say Frank has done alight in terms of outlay. We've fucked over other managers far worse. And as I said, I reckon him and Lange were both on the same page re:Jan signings and didn't want to 'panic'.
 
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One? He got Xaxi & Kudus for over 100m, an expensive loanee from Bayern he personally requested and got a striker on loan who cost PSG 90m quid 2 years ago. At the time most were rating like 6+/10 for the window.

He then also got a 35m signing in Jan when basically no other clubs outside of City did business. We obviously should've signed more cos of the dire situation, but I reckon he was very happy with the Gallagher signing and seemed visibly overjoyed when we got him.

He could've pushed for different profiles but he was happy with Palhinha and Gallagher - these were guys he signed off and was fine with. He personally requested Palhinha once Woolwich got Norgaard.

Like, by big club standards it obviously hasn't been great, but by Spurs standards I'd say Frank has done alight in terms of outlay. We've fucked over other managers far worse. And as I said, I reckon him and Lange were both on the same page re:Jan signings and didn't want to 'panic'.
Xavi was at least fourth choice due to Levy’s bungled negotiations - agree with a lot of what you say but we just don’t know who he wanted and who he got

My view:
Levy - shit
Frank - shit
Lange - shit
 
Xavi was at least fourth choice due to Levy’s bungled negotiations - agree with a lot of what you say but we just don’t know who he wanted and who he got

My view:
Levy - shit
Frank - shit
Lange - shit
Yeah that's fair. But even that was widely seen as a coup at the time - most people didn't think we had a chance of getting Xavi early in the window as he waving his arse at Chelsea.

We clearly misjudged the MGW thing but it's turned out he was never a viable option cos of the mental Forest chairman, while other options like Paz were never coming here. I think the only signing we truly bungled was Eze - if we'd gone hard and early for him I think we get that deal over the line. Seems like the Havertz injury made Woolwich move.
 
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I was polite to you the other day but honestly just shut up with this nonsense.

I told you that if you knew anything about gambling and you thought Opta was correct, you’d be laying us to go do down and backing West Ham. Have you put a few quid on it? Are you going to look to exploit the gap between Opta and the betting markets on a long term basis? - you should at least trial it using dummy stakes.

Of course the gambling prices aren’t gospel and that’s how someone like Tony Bloom makes his money by taking advantage of the inefficiencies. But in a developed relegation market where there is no insider knowledge/manipulation, you’re not going to have the Betfair Exchange price (which isn’t a bookmaker) at 3/1 if the true price (according to your heroes at Opta) is actually 12/1.
 
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There are too many players looking over their shoulder towards their next club imo.
This has created a cancer like negativity throughout the squad and a level of apathy has set in.
 
I'm sick to my stomach about tonight and the reality of relegation. I was sure that it wouldn't be losses every week and things would turn around eventually but now the reality has sunk in and my god I feel ill about it all.

Sad state of affairs at this club, truly
 
Woolwich win the quadruple, we get relegated at Stamford Bridge.

It’s like football fantasy written by someone who hates us. How the fuck is this even theoretical possible.
 
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