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Manager Mauricio Pochettino

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LOL that would be a disaster. Alonso perhaps the best up and coming manager in the game tried to impose a system and they said no. Ancelotti is peak Redknapp, trust the players and don’t impose a deep system. Any manager that moves away from that at Real is fucked. Poch will ask them to press and they will cry and moan and collapse. A squad of very talented babies.
 
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Steed_Train said:
Anyone else finding the whole Poch love in a bit embarrassing?

I know we’re desperate but the level of fawning is way over the top. He might not even come back as manager

It’s naive to think he’s suddenly going to turn us around (even if he does)
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Becuase he is far better than the alternatives. I would love Alonso or Luis Enrique to rock up here but they won’t.

Poch isn’t the best manager, he is a B level if Klopp is an A level, but Frank is an E level manager and we could easily end up with another E level manager. Poch is the best we can do and beyond that he is ability to weed out the bad eggs and improve players within an attacking system is exactly what we need right now, the right skillset.

Some managers just work, Moyes is perfect at Everton, it just fits. Poch works with our weaknesses as a club. If we get bought out by trillionaires then that equation changes.
 
Steed_Train said:
Anyone else finding the whole Poch love in a bit embarrassing?

I know we’re desperate but the level of fawning is way over the top. He might not even come back as manager

It’s naive to think he’s suddenly going to turn us around (even if he does)
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I'm 50/50 on it.

Did he deserve to be sacked? No.

Does it mean he is the right man for the job now? No.

Would he be welcomed back? Of course.
 
Timberwolf said:
I kinda feel like that's exactly what happened at PSG, though. They were so ludicrously top heavy and none of their forwards liked to do any defensive work so he abandoned any semblance of a high press and basically just let the forwards do what they wanted. I think this is part of the reason he didn't do brilliantly at PSG but also why he's one of the few managers that Madrid might look it. The list of managers that have experience managing super clubs with huge egos is getting increasingly short.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think he's favourite by any means, but when you look at the list of candidates I really don't think it's as unlikely as you're suggesting. If Klopp and Zidane say no it's a very short list of viable managers indeed. Could be a Nuno at Spurs situation where he almost gets it by default (especially if Mpabbe wants him).
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Going into that job knowing he has 3 forwards who wouldn't work, with his system depending on 11 players working hard doesn't say a lot.

Seems like Jose is up there too, that'll end on tears, but the owner has a hard on for him, and maybe he does just go in and provide a bit of structure rather than deep tactics and is more amenable. He can manage who's if nothing else because he has the biggest ego of all.

There's so many more options to consider before Poch. Failed at the two big clubs he managed, and there's a plethora of good, upcoming managers about now that deserve a chance. Talk to football fans outside of Spurs and I guarantee more think like me than most Spurs fans.

We'll get him, it'll be fine for a little while, then it'll inevitably stagnate because his system hasn't changed whatsoever and he doesn't have a Kane or Son to bail him out when teams set up with a low block. But it's whatever, he'll be better than Frank. But he's definitely nowhere near the coach that he's made out to be here, nor is his "love" for the club.
 
HyNdZee said:
I'm 50/50 on it.

Did he deserve to be sacked? No.

Does it mean he is the right man for the job now? No.

Would he be welcomed back? Of course.
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He averaged like 1.1 point a game from mid Feb to mid November and we were playing atrociously. He absolutely deserved to get sacked. Had circumstances been different in the summer of 2018, maybe he wouldn't have been, but that's speculative.
But that run was the worst it had been in a long time, over such a long period.
 
Papafeels said:
Going into that job knowing he has 3 forwards who wouldn't work, with his system depending on 11 players working hard doesn't say a lot.

Seems like Jose is up there too, that'll end on tears, but the owner has a hard on for him, and maybe he does just go in and provide a bit of structure rather than deep tactics and is more amenable. He can manage who's if nothing else because he has the biggest ego of all.

There's so many more options to consider before Poch. Failed at the two big clubs he managed, and there's a plethora of good, upcoming managers about now that deserve a chance. Talk to football fans outside of Spurs and I guarantee more think like me than most Spurs fans.

We'll get him, it'll be fine for a little while, then it'll inevitably stagnate because his system hasn't changed whatsoever and he doesn't have a Kane or Son to bail him out when teams set up with a low block. But it's whatever, he'll be better than Frank. But he's definitely nowhere near the coach that he's made out to be here, nor is his "love" for the club.
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Outside of the rest of it being nonsense - this bit is honestly one of the worst takes I've read on here - which is saying something. Kudos!
 
Papafeels said:
Whatever you think buddy.

Out of interest, what in particular is nonsense here? I'd love to hear your insights as to why.
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He didn't fail at two big clubs he managed two complete basket case clubs well and as evidenced by the subsequent performance no one else managed to get much more of a tune out of either of them until there was a complete culture shift away from the stupid 'galactico' model at PSG. He left Chelsea in sixth on an upward trajectory they are now fifth but probably veering in the opposite direction.

There aren't a load of up and coming managers that deserve a chance and our ability to select the good ones and hire them is massively limited by the dimwits we have in charge.

He wasn't bailed out by Kane and Son, he was the first time we had a manager that managed to put a cohesive whole team together and got more than the sum of its parts out of it. He made it to the champions league final with Sissoko and Winks as starting midfielders for god sake.

I think he has a genuine affection for the club (which I can say about probably zero of our staff at the moment).

He's an excellent coach.

Other than that, everything else you said was spot on.
 
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