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Manager Igor Tudor

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Phomesy said:
This is just silly. I could equally say "Winning trophies became acceptable under his tenure" and it would be equally as valid to Frank success/failure in that respect.

We are losing loads of game because we have half a squad to choose from and that squad is fairly mid already. The only difference is that Postecoglou at least made his players believe. If Frank was unable to do that then that's on Frank and the Powers That Be who appointed him and the program around him.

All the rest of it is cope.
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the only thing postecoglou made our players believe was that it's normal to lose games. they won the europa league despite him which was obvious by the way we played in the semis and the final. everyone behind the ball and certainly not "ange ball." ange was a disaster for this club. hope his next job is somewhere exotic like khazakstan.
 
Age said:
the only thing postecoglou made our players believe was that it's normal to lose games. they won the europa league despite him which was obvious by the way we played in the semis and the final. everyone behind the ball and certainly not "ange ball." ange was a disaster for this club. hope his next job is somewhere exotic like khazakstan.
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Excellent argument. Well made. Pat yourself on the back.
 
Age said:
er, no. this bunch of players think they should be playing for real madrid when in reality their level of performance and effort would suggest southampton if they're lucky. so many ass hats playing for the club. hard for a manager to get a tune out of them but i agree vinai and lange are awful and are mainly to blame for our current plight. i've been supporting spurs since 1990 and this is easily the worst side i've seen since then. no fight, no guts, shit players.
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The 90's were mainly horrific, with the odd decent player scattered here and there.
I think you should be aiming your sights on the managerial appointments more than the quality of the squad.
We've been basically shit until we lucked into Jol and the improved from there but it could still be argued that player for player, this current squad is (potentially) better than all apart from the Poch golden years.

A poor manager can destroy a club, like recently, Amorim and Man U and that weirdo who went to Rangers after failing badly in the PL (I forget his name).

A decent manager should be able to squeeze the best out of his squad and while you may disagree, I personally think that we've got a lot of unlocked talent in our squad, we just need the right guy in charge to realise that talent and let it loose.
 
Age said:
tudor has done absolutely naff all. nothing. nada. he hasn't improved one aspect of our play or brought any confidence to the side. 3 at the back with porro as one of the back 3?!?!? wtf!! if he stays we're going down. convinced of it. i agree there are no stand out names to replace him but if i was vinai and wasn't such a twat i'd be begging redknapp to try and save us. last roll of the dice time.
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Do you know, when I saw that Porro comment in the presser about Richy playing as a CB, part of me thought that it almost sounded like a veiled dig at Tudor about playing him there.

I really think that the players have turned on him already and have no confidence in what he's doing.
 
Deuterz said:
I don’t think Tudor should be sacked yet nor do I think it’s fair to judge Tudor overly harshly on the utter shitshow he’s been handed, and finally I am not convinced that any of the names bandied about achieve much of anything with the current state of the side.

I do still believe we can stay up - the fixtures after Liverpool are reasonable and if we beat Forest at home the jobs halfway done. It’s not some impossible task. I obviously don’t think the squad is as good as you do, but I don’t think it’s any worse than West Ham’s at all, we’ve just got a totally crushed spirit at the absolute worst time combined with a sort of sense that the penny hasn’t dropped like it has for forest or West Ham.
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Fair
 
He will be gone after Liverpool game. All the shit isn't his fault. Frank, players not respecting frank or tudor. Need an interim with a big personality in dressing room, lighten the mood, tell the players how great they are.
 
Age said:
amazed there are still some who pine for postecoglou despite the utter shit show he's left us with.
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I'm amazed that there are still who have the temerity to blame Postecoglu for the shit show we currently are.

Honestly, I don't think he was the messiah but it's certainly not his fault that we're here right now.
That's down to the board and Frank.
To some extent the players too but if I'd had to spend two thirds of a season playing Frank-Ball, I think I'd probably have given up on life as well.
 
McFlash said:
I'm amazed that there are still who have the temerity to blame Postecoglu for the shit show we currently are.

Honestly, I don't think he was the messiah but it's certainly not his fault that we're here right now.
That's down to the board and Frank.
To some extent the players too but if I'd had to spend two thirds of a season playing Frank-Ball, I think I'd probably have given up on life as well.
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ange definitely wasn't the messiah. more like the anti christ.
 
You would think at some stage one of Vinai, Lange or both would just do their job and get rid of this buffoon. Yes they should never have hired him, but it's time they owned yet another of their mistakes before it really is too late.
I know we rarely win at Anfield and yet again we are down to bare bones but every pt is crucial and leaving Tudor in charge is virtually conceding to another defeat.
 
Liverpool away is a tough ask for a new interim. Tudor will be gone Sunday night imo. Not tudors fault this mess but it was paraticis fault recommending him. Tbh dubious of paratici tenure with us. 2nd rate hire.
 
Age said:
amazed there are still some who pine for postecoglou despite the utter shit show he's left us with.
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If that's your level of analysis I'd be amazed if you were able to tie your own shoelaces.

Meanwhile others of us will just get on with the utter clusterfuck that has been happening at Spurs since Summer 2018 and the final nail in the coffin appearing to be the moment Postecoglou was sacked. Because that's what actually matters.
 
Phomesy said:
If that's your level of analysis I'd be amazed if you were able to tie your own shoelaces.

Meanwhile others of us will just get on with the utter clusterfuck that has been happening at Spurs since Summer 2018 and the final nail in the coffin appearing to be the moment Postecoglou was sacked. Because that's what actually matters.
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i think ange is shit....you don't. let's leave it at that.
 
Hampshire Spur said:
Dont like him. Arrogant. Thinks hes another guardiola. Last 9 games or 8 we need an uplifting manager, seen it all. For me Klinsmann, redknapp or both with Sheringham as part of coaching team.
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Klinsmann is a decent shout. Redknapp is just a whimsical pipe dream
I still think throwing £20mil at Klopp would be money well spent. And he won't turn that down for a couple of months work.
 
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