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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
Ange takes his fair share of the blame for the shit we're in at the moment.

He was our worst ever premier league manager until this season (he might end up being the 4th worst by the time this season is over, which just goes to show what a clusterfuck this year has been!).

He is partly responsible for normalising losing (despite all that bollocks during the Man City game about how bad it was to ever lose) and I think he's partly responsible for exacerbating the attitude problems of some of the prime culprits this season like Romero and VDV by putting them on a pedestal and making them think they are better than they are.

I'd rather be kicked in the nuts than take him back - unless we're actively trying to let him finish the job he started of relegating us.

Blaming Postecoglou for what's happened since you got what you wanted and he was sacked is pathetic cope from cowards unable to admit they were so catastrophically wrong that we are about to be relegated.

We've seen this type of irrational blather from the usual suspects many times ("hE NoRMaliSEd LOsiNg" - okay why aren't United also going down you utter fuckwits?) but this bit in bold is the icing on the shitcake the derangers serve up.

When Postecoglou had his back 5 (particularly Romero and VDV) available Spurs results were comfortably Top 6 in the Premier League across the journey.

When they returned last year to play in the Europa League Vs Alkmaar 2nd leg on 13th March 2025, we went 5 wins 1 draw, conceded only 3 goals and won the Trophy.

TO blame Postecoglou for the fact that Frank couldn't replicate these results despite that Back 5 being relatively fit this entire season is utterly insane. It's nonsense cope peddled by cowards unwilling and unable to face accountability for the fact their wishes are going to see us relegated.

I would suggest these people should feel ashamed to post such arrant nonsense but these people are clearly incapable of shame.

And it shall be pointed out to them every time they post it.
 
Seriously "Postycoglyou is to blame for Romero and Van De Ven being really good when playing for him" has to be the stupidest take I've ever read on any forum ever.

Blimey...
 
Exactly. So maybe we shouldn't have sacked our Trophy winning manager and instead bought decent players for him?

Or bought decent players for any fucking manager.
Ending the season 17th was unacceptable for a lot of supporters.

Whoever the manager was going to be the following season weren't getting those sort of players, so the only thing to do is to roll the dice with a manager.

The club has sacked trophy winning managers before Ramos was sacked in the October after winning a trophy, because of league form.

It's just the way the cookie crumbles.
 
Ending the season 17th was unacceptable for a lot of supporters.

Whoever the manager was going to be the following season weren't getting those sort of players, so the only thing to do is to roll the dice with a manager.

The club has sacked trophy winning managers before Ramos was sacked in the October after winning a trophy, because of league form.

It's just the way the cookie crumbles.
For sure.

I, too, was sucked in by the usual pack of lies about wanting to challenge on 4 fronts and that we wanted to win the League and Champions League and this justified sacking a trophy winning manager after a season ruined by injuries.

And then we bought West Ham's 3rd best player, Palinha on loan, hired Frank, and are about to be relegated.

In the face of overwhelming evidence I've accepted I was wrong and that the decision to sack Postecoglou was a catastrophic mistake because he was never the problem.

It's astonishing that there are still people here thinking the problem was the manager. Astonishing.
 
Blaming Postecoglou for what's happened since you got what you wanted and he was sacked is pathetic cope from cowards unable to admit they were so catastrophically wrong that we are about to be relegated.

We've seen this type of irrational blather from the usual suspects many times ("hE NoRMaliSEd LOsiNg" - okay why aren't United also going down you utter fuckwits?) but this bit in bold is the icing on the shitcake the derangers serve up.

When Postecoglou had his back 5 (particularly Romero and VDV) available Spurs results were comfortably Top 6 in the Premier League across the journey.

When they returned last year to play in the Europa League Vs Alkmaar 2nd leg on 13th March 2025, we went 5 wins 1 draw, conceded only 3 goals and won the Trophy.

TO blame Postecoglou for the fact that Frank couldn't replicate these results despite that Back 5 being relatively fit this entire season is utterly insane. It's nonsense cope peddled by cowards unwilling and unable to face accountability for the fact their wishes are going to see us relegated.

I would suggest these people should feel ashamed to post such arrant nonsense but these people are clearly incapable of shame.

And it shall be pointed out to them every time they post it.

Utter crap and you probably know it.

Particularly the point in bold, considering Frank had very similar levels of injury problems just in different areas of the pitch and was actually emulating Ange pretty well in that he was doing shit in the league and performing well in Europe.
 
For sure.

I, too, was sucked in by the usual pack of lies about wanting to challenge on 4 fronts and that we wanted to win the League and Champions League and this justified sacking a trophy winning manager after a season ruined by injuries.

And then we bought West Ham's 3rd best player, Palinha on loan, hired Frank, and are about to be relegated.

In the face of overwhelming evidence I've accepted I was wrong and that the decision to sack Postecoglou was a catastrophic mistake because he was never the problem.

It's astonishing that there are still people here thinking the problem was the manager. Astonishing.

How in gods name can sacking someone that gets you one place above three of the worst teams in premier league history be any kind of mistake, yet alone a catastrophic one?

We'd be in exactly the same situation if we'd stuck with Ange. Look at Nottingham Forest for Christ sake - in fact, we should probably be thanking him for being as shit as he was with them, otherwise they'd be out of sight of us by now.

Just because you sack one shit manager and replace them with another doesn't mean you shouldn't have sacked the first incompetent fool - it just means you should have hired a better replacement or, in our case, you should find better people to run the hiring of managers and the football side of the club generally.
 
For sure.

I, too, was sucked in by the usual pack of lies about wanting to challenge on 4 fronts and that we wanted to win the League and Champions League and this justified sacking a trophy winning manager after a season ruined by injuries.

And then we bought West Ham's 3rd best player, Palinha on loan, hired Frank, and are about to be relegated.

In the face of overwhelming evidence I've accepted I was wrong and that the decision to sack Postecoglou was a catastrophic mistake because he was never the problem.

It's astonishing that there are still people here thinking the problem was the manager. Astonishing.
I suppose there's an argument that could be made that Frank may have gone further in the Champions League and ended the season 17th, and had obviously lost Son's Maddison's and Kulusevki's goals, the club sold Johnson which is another stream for goals that is blocked.

I wanted Frank sacked when we lost to West Ham, but if he'd have gotten the whole season and the players like Manchester United got that you mentioned, and minus the injuries then the same argument could be made for Frank that is made for Postecoglou.
 
Utter crap and you probably know it.

Particularly the point in bold, considering Frank had very similar levels of injury problems just in different areas of the pitch and was actually emulating Ange pretty well in that he was doing shit in the league and performing well in Europe.

First of all - I'm not the one blaming the previous manager for the current (now ex-) managers failings. You are.

Secondly everything I posted is fact. If you don't like those facts I can't help you.

Thirdly I don't even blame Frank for the relegation. If you can't see by now that the problem isn't - and never was - the manager, I can't help you.

But sure continue to post shit like "It's PostyCoglyou's fault that Romero and VDV were really good when playing for him but not so good after he was sacked... Grrr..."

I mean it's utterly insane but sure keep posting it. Better than accepting reality I guess.
 
I suppose there's an argument that could be made that Frank may have gone further in the Champions League and ended the season 17th, and had obviously lost Son's Maddison's and Kulusevki's goals, the club sold Johnson which is another stream for goals that is blocked.

I wanted Frank sacked when we lost to West Ham, but if he'd have gotten the whole season and the players like Manchester United got that you mentioned, and minus the injuries then the same argument could be made for Frank that is made for Postecoglou.

This is entirely possible, yes. Like I said the managers are not the problem.

We all fell for the usual pack of lies. It's time to confront the truth.
 
Pathetic lazy response. Acknowledging in the face of overwhelming evidence that the managers are not - and have never been - the problem is just rational.

Unlike this lazy cop out. Do better.

Also, if it's honestly the case that you think there is nothing the managers can do why aren't you in the Frank thread, defending him with the same veracity as you are Ange? I mean everyone knows why, but lets see if you can explain it.
 
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