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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
People talk like Ange was the Demon Headmaster 💀

That's one of those things where it looks like you can see the point when it is abstract.

Harry Kane made a dig at us when he moved to Bayern by saying:

“We wanted to win at Spurs... but if you went a couple of games without winning it wasn’t a disaster. At Bayern you HAVE to win every game”.

Now, fuck me - we have players scratching their heads at why Postecoglou would get sacked for finished 17th and losing 22 games in one league season, and fans are wondering why we're now seeing that as the norm.
 
My chickens aren't coming home to roost. I wanted Ange to succeed, just like you did. In fact, initially I was excited, just like you were.
Sadly, he didn't succeed. In fact, his second season was appalling, apart from the fact that we won the Europa League. His aura of negativity took the club to a very, very low point, from which it hasn't recovered. I know it's not entirely down to him - the club owners and players have a lot to answer for too, but as the manager he was the inert, sullen, miserable figurehead on the prow of SS Tottenham as it sank inexorably to the depths it's currently resting at - teetering precariously on the brink of an underwater abyss from which it will be hard to recover if we topple over.

I look back objectively at Postecoglou's 2 years and see them for what they were - a dismal mess with a trophy.
Yes some supporter you are-
With you the glass is obviously half empty and that is a bit sad!
 
That's one of those things where it looks like you can see the point when it is abstract.

Harry Kane made a dig at us when he moved to Bayern by saying:

“We wanted to win at Spurs... but if you went a couple of games without winning it wasn’t a disaster. At Bayern you HAVE to win every game”.

Now, fuck me - we have players scratching their heads at why Postecoglou would get sacked for finished 17th and losing 22 games in one league season, and fans are wondering why we're now seeing that as the norm.

Less about Postecoglou because this thread is just sh!t going round picking up more sh!t, but on the comment about effectively seeing losing as normal.

You see I don't think that's thr case at all, although perceiving us winning games has been so difficult.

I think there's collective shock at this season. Bewilderment in truth. This group of players, even with the injury list as it is has no right to have failed to win this year, and to be 4th from bottom. Fcuk me that's criminal.

I'm sick of this fcuking thread amd sick of sny idiot who still believes Postecoglou deliberately lost games. He simply failed to show he has the ability to manage effectively in the PL. Period.

And Kane's comment wasn't a dig but an obvious observation. He plays in a Farmer's league and for the one huge club in the Bundesliga. The difference, and rightly so between Bayern in the Bundesliga and us in the PL after the stated 2 successive losses is rightly disaster against disappointment.
 
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Yes some supporter you are-
With you the glass is obviously half empty and that is a bit sad!
Mate, I've gone to many of the home games this season, so I'm an ACTUAL supporter, not just an online fan. A half empty glass would be wonderful at this point in time.

And yes, it's sad. I've supported this club for 66 years, so I've earned the right to be a bit sad right now.

Your lame attempts at belittling me carry no weight. They just float by, like small white feathers.
 
That's one of those things where it looks like you can see the point when it is abstract.

Harry Kane made a dig at us when he moved to Bayern by saying:

“We wanted to win at Spurs... but if you went a couple of games without winning it wasn’t a disaster. At Bayern you HAVE to win every game”.

Now, fuck me - we have players scratching their heads at why Postecoglou would get sacked for finished 17th and losing 22 games in one league season, and fans are wondering why we're now seeing that as the norm.

Maybe because of outcome bias and where we are now, we sacked Ange and subsequently hired a worse manager and went backwards, if we improved on last season none of these players would be saying this now.
 
Less about Postecoglou because this thread is just sh!t going round picking up more sh!t, but on the comment about effectively seeing losing as normal.

You see I don't think that's thr case at all, although perceiving us winning games has been so difficult.

I think there's collective shock at this season. Bewilderment in truth. This group of players, even with the injury list as it is has no right to have failed to win this year, and to be 4th from bottom. Fcuk me that's criminal.

I'm sick of this fcuking thread amd sick of sny idiot who still believes Postecoglou deliberately lost games. He simply failed to show he has the ability to manage effectively in the PL. Period.

And Kane's comment wasn't a dig but an obvious observation. He plays in a Farmer's league and for the one huge club in the Bundesliga. The difference and rightly so between Bayern in the Bundesliga and us in the PL after successive losses is rightly disaster against disappointment.

If losing isn't seen as normal, why would some of the players express surprise and wilderment at that league performance and not expect change?
 
If losing isn't seen as normal, why would some of the players express surprise and wilderment at that league performance and not expect change?
Fans. Fcuk knows whatthe players think. Sometimes I just don't believe they think at all.

My hope is that we have secured a manager who isn't just here for a life-changing salary that sets him up for life but one who wants to become synonymous with success.
 
That's one of those things where it looks like you can see the point when it is abstract.

Harry Kane made a dig at us when he moved to Bayern by saying:

“We wanted to win at Spurs... but if you went a couple of games without winning it wasn’t a disaster. At Bayern you HAVE to win every game”.

Now, fuck me - we have players scratching their heads at why Postecoglou would get sacked for finished 17th and losing 22 games in one league season, and fans are wondering why we're now seeing that as the norm.
Tying Kane's comment, even elliptically, to Postecoglou is a little disingenuous, don't you think?
 
If losing isn't seen as normal, why would some of the players express surprise and wilderment at that league performance and not expect change?

Maybe it was because we were in 6th, four points off 2nd with a GD of +14 before an unprecedented injury crisis wrecked our League season?

And then when we got our key defensive players back we went on to win our first European Trophy in 40 years.

Maybe that's why the players think it wasn't necessarily just "the manager" that was responsible for the league position but was certainly responsible for overseeing the Trophy win?

I mean that's what any rational person would conclude. Especially after what's happened this season. 🤷‍♂️

But Derangers aren't - by definition - "rational". They are deranged moths immolating themselves in the cleansing fire of the Great Man's thread :D

#5000pagesfor TheGreatMan😍
 
Tying Kane's comment, even elliptically, to Postecoglou is a little disingenuous, don't you think?

Given the fact that Kane left the season Postecoglou took charge, it's not only "disingenuous" it's just basically stupid.

"Kane said that before Postecoglou Spurs had a culture that losing was okay and this proves Postycoglyou is bad because he won a European Trophy" is the wildest argument you're ever going to hear.

This is why they are Derangers :D
 
Given the fact that Kane left the season Postecoglou took charge, it's not only "disingenuous" it's just basically stupid.

"Kane said that before Postecoglou Spurs had a culture that losing was okay and this proves Postycoglyou is bad because he won a European Trophy" is the wildest argument you're ever going to hear.

This is why they are Derangers :D
Indeed! That's why I made the comment. Kane played no league games for Postecoglou.
 
Mate, I've gone to many of the home games this season, so I'm an ACTUAL supporter, not just an online fan. A half empty glass would be wonderful at this point in time.

And yes, it's sad. I've supported this club for 66 years, so I've earned the right to be a bit sad right now.

Your lame attempts at belittling me carry no weight. They just float by, like small white feathers.

Wait you're old? I thought you were like 16.
 
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