The guy's had ONE game...how is it humanly possible to have an informed opinion at this stage?
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Why not? We've been signing Championship level players for years.
Do people not know Poch? He has a massive ego - and well earned. He's managing Team USA at their home World Cup. The fix will be in to get them into at least the knock out phases.
He'll come out of it looking fine and people will lol at Chelsea and remember he was the one who turned that leaky boat around. He'll have more the enough suitors around Europe.
He is not coming to manage Spurs in the championship. It's never gonna happen.
He’s clearly pacing himself
We haven't, we have decent players - we just have 0 idea of how to build a squad and profile our players adequately, always been the case
Because like it or not he doesn't have time and the luxury for is to judge him...he's been paid handomsely to firstly get us out of this hole, that's how it is
He lost me with his subs . I thought he was an attacking manager .
Judging from what I've seen over the past two years you're being very generous. Even our highly rated players are massively over rated and the rest are just crap. Four managers now haven't been able to get a tune out of them (I know we've had injuries but still) and they none of them look like they can create chances or keep clean sheets. funny thing is there will probably be a queue of cubs trying to sign our players this summer but frankly i'm amazed at what they see in them.
There's much more to it than this, rotten culture, poor player profiling and constant changes in strategy and direction means that the standards are low and the players barely improve.
I saw a couple of our players stand out for their NT's a couple of weeks ago and you will probably see their true level when they eventually leave the club.
I sincerely hope he can coach this idea of always reverting to getting “into shape” out of the players. I think this was a Frank idea but it seems clear the players do not trust each other to cover spaces left behind at all.
So many times yesterday Porro and Udogie lost possession and immediately run back to get in position instead of applying pressure to try and win the ball high up. Opposition just win it back, have eons of time to pick out their next pass and transition into attack while everyone jogs back into shape.
So many times yesterday Porro and Udogie lost possession and immediately run back to get in position instead of applying pressure to try and win the ball high up. Opposition just win it back, have eons of time to pick out their next pass and transition into attack while everyone jogs back into shape.
Yeah was the passion from the touch line. Thats what I wanted to see.
Yang, Phillips, Odobert, Dragusin, Veliz, Solomon, Tel, Rodon, Spence, Clarke, Sessegnon for example would not be massively out of place in the Championship.
Right but we have more players than that?
when you think the team that lined up against sunderland had a 50mil rb, 50mil cb, another 40mil cb, 35mil, 40mil, central midfielders and two 60mil plus forwards plus a player on loan who once went for about 80mil it;s a disgrace the performance they put in. they'd struggle in the champo most of them.
And funnily enough those players will look like world beaters away from Tottenham.
The issue is the club, not the players.
Yes the issue is the club but the players deserve to be getting moves to the likes of forest or southampton based on what they've shown for us.
Yeah but talking about us being well versed in signing Championship level players.
Half our squad could get moves to top 5 European league sides, fit in and not look out of place.
Not sure about world beaters most of them, but essentially agree yeah.
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The club have appointed De Zerbi to a long term contract, knowing that the squad decimated by injuries and likely heading for the Championship will need to be rebuilt (certainly if we go down).
How anyone can expect to see an immediate improvement after just two weeks in charge is beyond me.
De Zerbi has no doubt discussed the fragility of the squad, drawn up a plan should we go down, and would have agreed a transfer policy moving forward.
It's fucking obvious that with a decimated squad, whichever manager came in would be working in very difficult circumstances, and if anything is "bizarre" about the situation it's that you think there's a magical formula to fixing a twenty five year issue in just three months.
If we didn't expect immediate results, why not just stick with Tudor? What is the benefit of hiring him now, knowing we're going down, only to work with a completely different set of players next season?
RDZ still would've taken on that bag in the summer, because why wouldn't you take twice your salary? He wouldn't get close to that elsewhere. And if he didn't, the Messiah, Poch, certainly would've.
I don't think there's a magical formula. It was one last roll of the dice to stay up. And I'm certain we've got it completely wrong. I do find it bizarre to hire a manager now, who doesn't have the players to make his system work. He could've been flexible and just made us shut up shop and try and nick points. I'm also completely fucking baffled by the decisions made yesterday, and had that been Tudor, I'm sure you'd have been equally forgiving of them.
Wild take. Poch is managing a terrible international team because since his peak years with us, it's went one way for him. Why all of a sudden, there's going to be a queue of clubs fighting for him is wild. We'd be what the USA is even if we went down, he'd have taken the Spurs job the same reason why he took that job, cash.
He's a bygone relic who is trying to make himself relevant.