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No.Are you not having the retractable pitch theory?
Are you not having the retractable pitch theory?
Which 2 clubs are the only clubs in the world with a segmented pitch-in-tray stowable recessed playing surface?
Why the sudden, sharp increase in the last two years? The stadium has been played on since 2019, and we've never seen injuries like the last two years.
Which 2 clubs are the only clubs in the world with a segmented pitch-in-tray stowable recessed playing surface?
If it were the pitch, players form both sides would be going down like ours, but they don't. This is such a silly argument.
The first point is valid, though I would say we've had injury issues more than the last 2 seasons.
The last point is not valid. If its a symptom of an issue with stiffness and rebound rate of the playing surface, playing on it occasionally would not likely have averse effects but playing on it repeatedly and regularly potentially increases stress/strain/fatigue over time.
Similar to running a mile on concrete being unlikely to injure you, but if you were to run a mile daily on concrete vs. asphalt you would experience a significantly larger number of injuries over time.
Again, there's only 2 clubs in the world with this pitch system. They're both experiencing injury crisises. Correlation does not always equal causation...but it also could equal causation.
Football pitches at this level aren't just turf. There's loads of layers underneath them. And they don't sit on a bed of feathers. If it was like playing on concrete, you'd hear players complain about it, which I haven't heard them do. Again, why did the likes of Kane and Son who played lots of games on it succumb to these injuries? It's a coincidence. If there was anything scientific to support your thesis, I might give it some credit, but it's pretty ridiculous.
We've always had shitty injuries. I would say that we have bad sport scientists, bad physios, and most importantly, we don't have a squad big enough to compete in as many games as we do. Liverpool have just got a huge spate of injuries, I doubt it's their pitch.
I think it might be the case with 2-3 of the the higher wage earners. I wouldn't be that surprised if Kudus, a player De Zerbi likes, but who would be a dick if we keep him goes on loan for a season then comes back once we're back in the PL.
But sending our more talented kids on loan just makes no sense to me. You loan kids to get them game-time and if we're in the Champ they should all be playing plenty. Plus their wages are not a concern.
But why would we bring back a player with such little commitment to the club?
Some players might be good enough to display such a lack of self-respect for, fucking Kudus ain't one of them.
We don't have any player worth being so pathetic for.
Which 2 clubs are the only clubs in the world with a segmented pitch-in-tray stowable recessed playing surface?
WHITE KITS CAUSE INJURIES
Well it can be a win/win thing tbh. The club won't want to keep all the higher wage earners around anyway and we might not be able to get decent fees for them. If we start selling players well below market value we'll be seen as an easy touch so if clubs are trying to completely mug us off with weak offers then loaning is the best option.
Plus getting players like Xavi/Kudus off the books for a year - 2 players that barely even got going at Spurs - then reevaluating in a year's time if we're promoted just seems pretty sensible tbh. Can always just sell them a year later if we want to.
Leeds did it with Aaronson when they got relegated and he came back after a year and ended up being a key player for them. I don't see that as 'pathetic'.
If Kudus comes out and starts talking shit about the club that's different, but you're getting a bit overly defensive and precious about the prospect of a loan, which we do all the time with players anyway.
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Pretty sure that was a situation where they just wanted rid of him and could only get him out on loan, that he ended up coming back and playing a part was just similar to how we tried to shift Lo Celso and couldn't so he ended up back here and in the squad.
Actively saying to a player we don't want to sell you so go away for a year and come back when we're back in the Prem is the pathetic part. What if we don't come back up first time? Loan again in the hope that second times the charm? Be forced to sell from an even weaker position?
Even if we did come back up, we've then got a returning player that we know didn't care enough for the club to stick around and fight our way back to the PL. I'm not naive enough to believe any of them really care that much about the badge on their shirt, but it's not very often you see anyone do something so overtly confirming the fact.
If any player stomps his feet then they can go as long as someone pays a fee acceptable to us, if any of them need to be shifted for fear of us being financially crippled but there are no buyers then fine, loan them out, but absolutely no to doing any of them any favours.
I'm just being realistic. If you asked the entire squad in confidence if they'd rather get a nice move or stick it out in the Champ, I reckon 90% of them would prefer to leave. And obviously we're not in a position to sell 90% of the squad.
There will naturally be a few players we loan and, if it suits both parties, maybe they can come back in a year's time? I just don't see the big issue tbh unless they're openly shitting on the club or being dicks about it.
I see what you mean, I just think there's a massive difference between that naturally transpiring, and actively planning it that way.
If any one of the players shirks the responsibility of dragging this club back to the PL for 12 months, they can get fucked in thinking that they will be welcomed back with open arms the following season.
There are nuances to it, like if we simply cannot afford to have someone around for 12 months and a loan is the only way out, then reassess in 12 months, but you cannot send them out on loan with the loose agreement that they will come back to us as a PL club again in 12 months time.
That's like getting a bit fat and saying to the Mrs "you go off an shag someone else until I've gotten myself back in shape love", I'd be embarrassed (once again!) by the club.
Yeah I think it has to be pretty fluid not a guaranteed 'we'll bring you back in a year'. If we get loans for them I'd imagine we'd aim to get buy-options included at a decent price, but if they aren't bought maybe we bring em back and integrate them if De Zerbi wants them.
In Australia they built the grass playing arena over the concrete roof of the underground car park, The lack of "give" or excessive hardness of the playing surface was a factor reported to increase knee injuries.
There actually is scientific evidence that hard playing surfaces increase the risk of sporting injuries specifcally of the knees.
I have no issue at all with things changing in the interim, that happens all the time, but at the point of them going, the intent should be that that's the end of them here.
Only exception is obviously youngsters going out on loan who would be unlikely to play a part for us and are going out to get experience, same as every year.
Which 2 clubs are the only clubs in the world with a segmented pitch-in-tray stowable recessed playing surface?
Incredible isn't it?
All this data driven analysis about how a lack of progressive passers will get Spurs relegated and nobody talks about the most obvious explanation for an unprecedented level of injuries over a sustained period of time.
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it's probably;
A fucking duck.
Opposition players do get injured playing on the Levydome pitch but;
They only play on the retractable pitch once a season unless they also play against Spurs in cup competitions too.
Spurs first team players are available to play on it, for 19 league games, and every home cup tie, unless;
THEY ARE INJURED.
Do you rule it out completely as a possible contributing factor?