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Andros Townsend
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Great goal for the lad yesterday. Hopefully this lets him push on a little bit.
The boys on the pod were talking about whether we should sell Lamela or Townsend next year. I would really want to keep them both for just one more year - Lamela has tons of potential and I just love that Townsend is an academy product.
The boys on the pod were talking about whether we should sell Lamela or Townsend next year. I would really want to keep them both for just one more year - Lamela has tons of potential and I just love that Townsend is an academy product.
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IMO the three matches we played the best football of the season. Andros started and played well in all of them surely this is not a coincidence? He should start ahead of Lamela on merit at the moment.
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IMO the three matches we played the best football of the season. Andros started and played well in all of them surely this is not a coincidence? He should start ahead of Lamela on merit at the moment.
1 goal does not a player make. Needs to it far, far more often. Seems absurd it's his first goal from open play since Oct 2013. And as we all know, that was a cross.
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The goal gets him the next start too. The commentators over here in Sweden said Poch was preparing a sub just before Mason scored, and I'm willing to bet it was Andros coming off. Overall he had a poor game but that goal was marvelous and the lad deserves to keep playing now. We need him and/or Lamela to perform and I'm willing to bet that goal will elevate Townsy's form due to confidence. Football is about competition and now it's up to Lamela to displace Townsend. Poch doesn't do favors.
I mean the thing with both Townsend and Lamela is they are only competing with each other and both are in relatively poor form. Lamela and Townsend both only have one league goal from open play each in the last 18 months.
You can pick a favorite and argue for them but for the most part both of them are pretty ineffective and lose the ball a lot.
Hopefully this gives Townsend some confidence going forward though. While we've all seen him smack it into row z a bunch of time he's been extremely unlucky at certain junctures both drawing good saves and hitting woodwork. He does strike the ball pretty cleanly from distance on occasion, hopefully he'll have the confidence to put a few more away.
You can pick a favorite and argue for them but for the most part both of them are pretty ineffective and lose the ball a lot.
Hopefully this gives Townsend some confidence going forward though. While we've all seen him smack it into row z a bunch of time he's been extremely unlucky at certain junctures both drawing good saves and hitting woodwork. He does strike the ball pretty cleanly from distance on occasion, hopefully he'll have the confidence to put a few more away.
Hit the nail on the head, neither of them are pulling up trees. Hopefully, this goal will start a good run of form form Andros. I have been saying these last few months is an audition for Townsend and Lamela if neither of them can nail down that third attacking spot we need to look elsewhere int he summer.
One advantage I think Andros gives us when he plays that Lamela doesn't is he gives us natural width. When Lamela and Chadli play together they both like to cut in and we often times get bogged down in the middle of the park.
Lastly, another reason I would prefer Townsend over Lamela atm is he has proven to be an excellent penalty taker. Kane got fortunate against West Ham but he is only hitting on 50% of pens not good enough.
I think my two cents is just that even when he's not scoring (which is most of the time), Lamela just provides more than Townsend, particular with regards to pressing in the opponent's final third and forcing turnovers. I was thrilled for Townsend last night, but how often do you see Townsend's shots actually testing the keeper? More often than not he delivers them straight into the keeper's arms. I'd love for him to hit a run of form and start bagging a few goals here and there until the end of the season, because god knows we need someone to, but when Townsend scored I couldn't help but flirt with the idea that "it's about damn time with all the shots he takes", rather than actually thinking his performance deserved a goal.
Again, nobody would be more pleased than I if Townsend came good, but I think we'd be well served in the summer by looking for a new right winger.
I think the Lamela pressing thing is a bit of a myth. He does works really hard and it was underlined by his massive tackle numbers in the Liverpool game. However, I think most of the excitement about it stems from the fact that everyone expected a skilled player coming from the Italian league like Lamela to be lazy and defensively suspect. Thus, when he does put in effort everyone is surprised and notices it more. Townsend is not lazy or ineffective whatsoever defensively and also generally doesn't give away the poor free kicks like Lamela has a tendency to do.
Ultimately, Townsend and Lamela both deserve another year as they are young and their careers at Spurs have been incredibly hectic due to injuries and coaching changes. We'll probably bring in at least one winger this summer and they will both be challenged and have to prove themselves or be gone after next season. They are dead even IMO as neither of them has proved they are a player whatsoever. I think most of the one is ahead of the other opinions is built mostly on preconceived notions rather than both their on field contributions which has been extremely minimal.
Gotta disagree. One season more for Townsend will prove nothing. He's played 80 games for us now. We should have cashed in in the summer when his price was sky high, and should do again this summer before it plummets again.
Lamela may be having a tough first full season, but he's got a solid season behind him in Serie A Townsend could only dream of, he deserves a second full season.
Too little too late for Townsend, upgrade in the summer.
I'm well aware of your opinion of Townsend as it is on every page of this thread so I'm not going to try to convince you otherwise but with the exception of price tag their careers at our club are very similar. Also, only separated by a few months in age. They both certainly have the ability to improve and it would make me very happy if they were both at the club going forward as both seem to be nice lads.
Also Danny Rose just got to around 80 caps for us plus an additional Prem season at Sunderland and seems like just now he is starting to get it. You never know when a player might start performing.
One has played 30 games, one has played 80. That isn't similar.
Lamela has the same amount of goals and over double the amount of assists in under half the games. Not similar.
Townsend has had his chance and sorry to say he's blown it. We need better. If we're looking to bring in a Depay, he's going to be replacing one of Lamela or Townsend and we all know who it should be.
You're right, he's a top lad, but 80 games is more than enough to show us your worth. When you see the impacts of Mason, Kane, Bentaleb, you see the standard we should now hold our homegrown talents too. They are the benchmark now.
Let's not skew the facts. Townsend has started 47 matches in all comps, Lamela 35. There isn't much between them at the moment in terms of any measurement you want to provide. Townsend has 10 goals and 8 assists for us, Lamela has 5 goals and 9 assists.The only difference is one cost us 30m the other nothing.
Neither of them are doing enough imo. I think if we were to sell either of them they would command similar fees as well.
Neither of them are doing enough imo. I think if we were to sell either of them they would command similar fees as well.
Depay has never played as a RW in the last two seasons so he would be replacing neither.
Also your statistics are all over the place. Lamela has played 31 league games for us while Townsend has played 41. Lamela has played 53 games in all competitions for us, Townsend has played 80.
Townsend has 3 EPL goals for us, Lamela has 1. Townsend has 10 total goals for us, Lamela has 5.
Lamela has 12 assists in all comps with us. Townsend has 14.
Don't just make shit up.
Where you getting them stats from? Looks like WhoScored may have stitched me up as it says different.
I used WhoScored. Apologies, I was wrong.
Still not similar. Townsend has had far more opportunity to show us what he's about. He's not improving, if anything he's regressing.
If Depay came in, he would be. That's one more superior winger. So whether it would be moving Chadli or Eriksen, both Lamela and Townsend would see less game time.
Difference being I suppose is that Lamela can play AM. Townsend can't.
Once again, I don't think Townsend has done particularly well but if Townsend is regressing Lamela at the very best isn't improving. All I think is that both should continue to get a chance next season as the only real difference between them is price tag.
Lamela has the excuse of it being his first injury free (generally) full season. Townsend is experienced enough now in the League to be showing more promise than he does.
I'll be saying the same of Lamela if this time next year his performances are the same.
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Haha....Im delighted for him and what a goal it was.
But....he's had 41 shots this season.
Its far from the norm they go in..Im afraid to say he's a poor winger, despite his admirable work ethic and the fact he's one of our own, and that he seems really likable and hard working.
Said it before, but he's punching above his weight.
And so is Lamela while we're on the subject. Id happily replace both. I see no PL future for Lamela, despite the fact he could well go to Atletico or Juve and rip it up.