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Match Leicester away, Saturday 3 PM

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Spursinho said:
True. Maybe more. Are you happy with playing that way though. If we played like that there would be a riot in here with all the moaners complaining about negative football
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Top of the league so yeah I'm delighted

I honestly don't see it as negative football. We are utilizing or pacey attack and width. We have been highly praised for the football we play by many pundits. I think the weather effected both teams yesterday so it maybe wasn't a true reflection of how we both play.

Top 6-7 teams like yourselves probably would be criticised for it but hey if it works who cares
 
Spursinho said:
True. Maybe more. Are you happy with playing that way though. If we played like that there would be a riot in here with all the moaners complaining about negative football
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Not from me. Park the bus any day.

Tired of us getting smashed 6-0 because, "It's the Tottenham way". The Tottenham way is being a push over and shit in defense, while attacking 99% of the time. Even when you're 1-0 up against Leicester in the 81st minute, you have your full backs on the half way line during kick off.

Park the bus for 9 minutes. Really isn't hard, every relegation candidate can do it, yet we can't.
 
I think some people are going to have to wind down their expectations by several degrees, we have the youngest squad in the league, they are learning on the job and they are going to be making some ridiculous mistakes until they find their feet. That's not an excuse it's a fact.

Any experience in the squad we do have are people like Walker and Vertonghen, who look like they might never learn how to stop making stupid mistakes, and Lloris who can only do so much, at one point yesterday he was even filling in at right back FFS...

A lot of work will have to done in the next seven days and after that it will probably be a case of battening down the hatches because it's going to be a bumpy ride. You can blame Levy, Pochettino, the fucking black box or even the tea-lady but as fans there's not a whole hell of a lot we are going to be able to do about it except bitch and moan in here or boo at the home games. Enjoy the ride ladies and gentlemen...
 
S.L.R said:
Yeah, I remember what that looks like. Just about.
I miss it :lennon:
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Eh. Inside forwards tend to impact the game more than a winger, no matter how fun it is to watch. Just an evolution of the game.

Ronaldo, Bale, Roben, Neymar, Messi....I can't think of too many good wingers in England. Hazard isn't one. Depay isn't one. Sanchez isn't...open to suggestions?
 
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Jayc1 said:
Eh. Inside forwards tend to impact the game more than a winger, no matter how fun it is to watch. Just an evolution of the game.

Ronaldo, Bale, Robin, Neymar, Messi....I can't think of too many good wingers in England. Hazard isn't one. Depay isn't one. Sanchez isn't...open to suggestions?
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Swansea have Montero, City have Navas. I guess they would both qualify.
 
Jayc1 said:
Not from me. Park the bus any day.

Tired of us getting smashed 6-0 because, "It's the Tottenham way". The Tottenham way is being a push over and shit in defense, while attacking 99% of the time. Even when you're 1-0 up against Leicester in the 81st minute, you have your full backs on the half way line during kick off.

Park the bus for 9 minutes. Really isn't hard, every relegation candidate can do it, yet we can't.
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As much as I prefer "the Tottenham Way", the fact is that its becoming increasingly incompatible with the modern state of the league, mostly because flair players have become luxuries that only the top clubs can afford to enjoy. When you consider that, if we want to go back to playing "The Tottenham Way" then it seems to me that in the short term we need to be grinding out results to keep us in with a chance of competing. The rubbish that we've seen so far this year will have the opposite cumulative effect if it continues.
 
I always thought that 'The Tottenham Way' was coined in the '60s by Bill Nic... now correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we have the likes of Maurice Norman and Dave Mackay in the team at that time? Didn't see them surrendering a 2-goal lead within 5 minutes, or conceding a goal within seconds of scoring what should've been an 81st minute winner... THEY COULD DEFEND! The Tottenham Way isn't just about all out attack... if it were, we'd just name a team with Kane in goal, then an outfield 0-1-9 formation of Gazza, Ardiles, Hoddle, Sheringham, Ginola, Klinsmann, Bale, Lineker, Greaves and C.Allen!!

I think the biggest mistake we made yesterday was when we scored, we thought Leicester would react like WE DO!
We forgot that OTHER teams don't just give up after going a goal down in the 81st minute. .. had that been Leicester scoring late on at White Hart Lane, the clacking of seats being vacated would've drowned out the goal celebrations from the away end!

We saw against Stoke what a never say die attitude can get you... an EQUALISER at the very least! Why can't we apply THAT attitude?
There were still 8 minutes left when Leicester equalised (and pretty much that again when Stoke did the same last week)... and yet WE were under the cosh, and lucky to scrape a draw in both games after being in winning positions!
 
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dsabia9 said:
I agree that finishing outside the Top 4 is logical and realistic. My point is that we are not the only team off to a slow start, but some of the lot on here are ready to abandon ship, while maintaining that other struggling sides will magically find form. Just don't think it's logical to be so glass half empty about our squad and half full about other squads.

I'm willing at least to see who Poch brings in before the window shuts and how we perform in the next 5 fixtures or so before making any sweeping judgements on how this year will turn out. Still lots of footy to play!
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i get what u are saying but i dont agree.

yeh usually 1 of the top 4 teams have a dodgy season.
id say man utd did last season. but still finished above us.

but even if 1 of them have a dodgy season again, there is nothing to suggest we will take advantage of that.
levy has let poch down. theres nothing to suggest poch can work minor managing miracles.

well lets see how u feel in 5 games time?
if u still feel the same id be suprised.
& i think u may pretend u think we will get top 4.
but if i said lets bet on it. ud say i dont gamble ha
 
ArtyB said:
I think some people are going to have to wind down their expectations by several degrees, we have the youngest squad in the league, they are learning on the job and they are going to be making some ridiculous mistakes until they find their feet. That's not an excuse it's a fact.
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So starting 11 yesterday...

Lloris learning on the job. No.
Walker learning on the job. No.
Vertonghen learning on the job. No.
Alderwiereld learning on the job. No.
Davies learning on the job. No.
Dier learning on the job. Definitely in his new position.
Mason learning on the job. Maybe.
Chadli learning on the job. No.
Lamela learning on the job. No.
Dembele learning on the job. No.
Kane learning on the job. No.

Maybe 2 out of 11.
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Jayc1 said:
Yet Eriksen does fuck all for 88 mins, scores a last min goal and everyone loves him? Seems like there's different measurements for both of them.

Eriksen goes missing just as much as Chadli, if not more. Simply makes up for it by being decent at free kicks. Just seems harsh that people knock him all the time.
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we all have different opinions.
i think eriksen is a much better player than chadli.
& even when both are bad at least eriksen works much harder than chadli.

i also think eriksen could make it at a better team.
i dont think chadli could.

anyway. no need to have a long debate. i think eriksens better. u dont.
 
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Jayc1 said:
Not sure why people are suddenly getting upset over this. I've been saying it all summer. We won't finish in the top 4, we won't even finish close. 5th at best. Impossible with the current circumstances, spending (Or lack of) and wages.

People always say we can't get a player because they want CL football, which I think is a bit of myth. Money speaks louder than any competition and we're too afraid to spend it.
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i agree. but suprinsingly some people still think we can get top 4. i guess they are very optimistic & less miserable & realistic than me.
 
Deadwood'sPostMatch said:
So starting 11 yesterday...

Lloris learning on the job. No.
Walker learning on the job. No.
Vertonghen learning on the job. No.
Alderwiereld learning on the job. No.
Davies learning on the job. No.
Dier learning on the job. Definitely in his new position.
Mason learning on the job. Maybe.
Chadli learning on the job. No.
Lamela learning on the job. No.
Dembele learning on the job. No.
Kane learning on the job. No.

Maybe 2 out of 11.
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You think that Lamela, Walker, Dembele, Davies and Kane are the finished articles and have nothing more to learn? How about Vertonghen playing a guy with a blinding left foot shot unto his left foot inside the penalty area, that's fucking schoolboy shit right there...
 
1882 said:
I always thought that 'The Tottenham Way' was coined in the '60s by Bill Nic... now correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we have the likes of Maurice Norman and Dave Mackay in the team at that time? Didn't see them surrendering a 2-goal lead within 5 minutes, or conceding a goal within seconds of scoring what should've been an 81st minute winner... THEY COULD DEFEND! The Tottenham Way isn't just about all out attack
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SPOT. ON

Who are these people talking about the "Tottenham Way", and confusing it with "Sunday League".

Do people think that this fucking garbage is any way reminiscent of what this club is famous for?

The last time I checked, The Tottenham Way was not "defending" 60 yards in front of your goal.
It was not about walking around and not being able to pass.
Its not about passing backwards because to have no idea what to do.
Its got fuck all to do with not being able to put the boot in....as mentioned, maybe some of you dont know who Dave Mackay is, or Graham Roberts?

What about leadership, like Mullery, Perryman and King?

"The great fallacy is that the game is first and last about winning. It is nothing of the kind. The game is about glory, it is about doing things in style and with a flourish, about going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."

Look it up if you dont know who said it.

Fucking ridiculous notion that what we are doing now is the Tottenham way, so the only answer is to start putting 10 men behind the ball.

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ArtyB said:
You think that Lamela, Walker, Dembele, Davies and Kane are the finished articles and have nothing more to learn? How about Vertonghen playing a guy with a blinding left foot shot unto his left foot inside the penalty area, that's fucking schoolboy shit right there...
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Vertonghen is a Belgian international that is not 'learning on the job'.
Kane scored 31 goals last season and played for England.
Walker is an England international.
This is Lamela's third season.
How many seasons has Dembele played in the prem?

Learning on the job, right-ho.
 
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