Yes.
Me too but I think a lot of folk would struggle, it would mean we'd have to take losses and that means having to lower expectations, I don't think our fans are patient enough for that.
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Well we’ve taken plenty of defeats this season and the natives are already restless despite league position and CL progression, so yes, I agree.Me too but I think a lot of folk would struggle, it would mean we'd have to take losses and that means having to lower expectations, I don't think our fans are patient enough for that.
I wouldn’t know until I knew we hadn’t been disadvantaged by those sales and until Ndombele had proven to be a success.
And that’s not relevant to the point here - I have continually asked why Liverpool have managed to overtake us and all I hear about is about net spend ( which I think is a nonsense given that few of their last summer signings have impressed ) only for the same people to claim that this isn’t a factor when it comes to ourselves. Funny that.
Agree with all of this apart from the myth of a squad capable of competing on all fronts, that too is a red herring. I mean even City & PSG are out of the competition they both covert most, a competition that was their primary target (I say "even" City & PSG as they clearly are unique given they are backed by sovereign wealth and City might well be found guilty of fraud).Exactly right - it's who you buy and how many, look at the number of new players bought in to Fulham, they never coped with the transition.
We need to add gradually and improve incrementally, the idea we buy 4 or 5 players is concerning because you have to give them time, a fair bit of it and that means sacrificing results, which I am guessing none of us would accept either.
Also I find the 'net spend' argument a little bit of a red herring, I was listening to a podcast who made the point that Alexis Sanchez was possibly the most expensive signing for Man United of all time, why? Because the wage level he was offered meant other players would demand parity or an increase in line with that player's wage, so an ongoing cost of millions of pounds, a set of overpaid players who are unsaleable and a team that under performs. Perhaps a salient reason why anyone would struggle to manage the side.
The amount we spend is an irrelevance when compared to creating a sustainable squad that has the depth to handle the games at the business end of the season. We're not there yet and it will take more than next season to get to that point, it takes a long time to be an overnight success.
Actually that does pose another question, would you accept next season as transitional, winning nothing, no Euroean competition, if it meant that we developed a team/squad that could mount a serious challenge on all fronts?
I don't recall people pointing to Liverpool rise this season as "net spend". The narrative has been they bought well, chose their targets to fill the holes in their squad.I wouldn’t know until I knew we hadn’t been disadvantaged by those sales and until Ndombele had proven to be a success.
And that’s not relevant to the point here - I have continually asked why Liverpool have managed to overtake us and all I hear about is about net spend ( which I think is a nonsense given that few of their last summer signings have impressed ) only for the same people to claim that this isn’t a factor when it comes to ourselves. Funny that.
Haha, you can fuck off. Dele's struggled with injuries all season, yet whenever he's played we've looked a lot more dangerous. Eriksen's had a poor period, but was finding form. You just can't wait for them to make a mistake so you can jump on them. You talk about eye tests and watching games and their influences on them, but then judge Dele solely on his goals and assists on transfermarkt. Just quit it, when was the last time you wrote something positive on here? Even when Eriksen scored a late banger to win us 3 points you probably couldn't get yourself to cheerLast few games?
You told me two years ago I wanted Dele and Eriksen sold and I hated them.....now I only hated them for a few weeks
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If he’s fit he fit though right?
It wasn’t a hamstring that made him not pass to Son for a tap in.
It’s on Poch too, but ultimately it’s Dele out there playing poorly.
Read my fucking posts AGAIN. I'm fucking agreeing with you (mostly) about their purchases you fucking idiot! I'm saying that despite what I or YOU think the narrative is they bought well, read the press, listen to the media, it's literally all they talk about (which then gets repeated on here). Whether you or I agree with that narrative doesn't fucking changer that the narrative is that they bought well. Jesus Christ you really are hard work.That's simply not true because they haven't targeted correctly have they? Fabio and Keita haven't produced and have had spells out of the squad, whilst Allison has been nothing more than decent. Why would the narrative be about how they have targeted correctly when virtually none of those players have contributed to their improvement this season? Their existing players have stepped up a level - no one in the media is referencing those players - it is about the likes of Mane, Van Dijk and Salah, it is about how Klopp was financially supported last year - it is about the spend.
As for Klopp, well I think it is quite clear that he is a level of above Pochettino - compare their respective careers and just look how they have progressed beyond us despite the squads now being comparable. Klop's is the driver behind their improvement this season because it is largely the same team as last season.
With regards to the financials - well in this thread you subscribe to the notion that the domestic cups are not a pririoty, that the focus in your view is rightly on the PL and CL. Fine but why - outline the reason - should we expect the club to be winning league titles or European cups now? And why have't we won those tournaments yet? Or if this isn't about silverware what are the other reasons as to why we should be prioritizing these?
There is and always has been excuses for a lack of summer spending so no surprises there, but if levy and co left and in comes seriously ambitious people would that really be an issue or a downside I think not.
Not a case of that is it but if the right people come in to take us on surely that can only be good for all concerned.
Play on your own mate
if we are selling to buy and have a minimal/negative net spend it's clear we want to be Woolwich mk2 but we will get found out quicker because of a tougher climate now.
What does this even matter to a fucking fan?Will another zero net spend be acceptable to you ?
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Did you BELIEVE we will spend zero in the summer?
(Genuinely question.... I get this impression from many people atm; maybe this is where I'm going 'wrong'....)
Point is Sammy I doubt Trippier's sale would buy bissaka for less ,if we can get great players with the proceeds from the sale of lesser players then sure I couldn't care less about net spend but the reality is we won't get fantastic money for any of our fringe players and are in need of significant investment
You’re living in cloud cuckoo land if you think that Trippier is going anywhere for under 30M
I just listed a group of players that could raise 200M at least....people won’t like to see Dele on there, but personally I’d be happy to sell him for75- 100M and get Grealish for 40M.Probs right but I think his point is that Bissaka will cost us or anyone double that.
If Dele is really that inferior to Grealish and not worth keeping, how the fuck are we gonna get 75- 100M for him?I just listed a group of players that could raise 200M at least....people won’t like to see Dele on there, but personally I’d be happy to sell him for75- 100M and get Grealish for 40M.
People will call it down grading. Is it? Really? Right now, is that a step down? Not in my book.
You can sell Dier, Llorente, Trippier etc etc who fucking cares if we won’t ever bench or sub off Dele and Eriksen.
People in for a rude awakening if they truly believe Sessengon, Ndombele and Wan Bissaka will improve our attacking.
Moura is already the fall guy for Eriksen and Dele....what’s the point