Likely just extended a year for if Preston don't take up the buy option so they can loan with option again next year. Have done that a few times in the past.
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No, that is not how an option works.
If Preston meet the option (some same 4.5m, some say 5m) and Devine is happy to go there (and those personal terms will likely already have been agreed), nothing we can do to stop it.
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My view, Gray has proven more than Devine has so far whilst at Leeds, but if we are judging him as a midfielder, then not Premier League level at the moment, a loan could/would be beneficial. I would put him in the "we overpaid for him" category
The fact you use Scott as an example is nuts.
Bournemouth turned him down as a youngster and ended up paying £25m for him.
He’s not a product of their youth academy. They paid decent money for him when they could have had him for zero.
He won player of the season for Bristol in the championship and made the championship team of the year aged 19.
The levels he is at are clearly way above Devine.
And he’s 22. Same age as simons.
Who Thomas Frank is playing.
You’re an absolute doughnut.
Of course - but we don't.
Aston Villa; where he gave more game time to a young Jack Grealish.Yeah Tim is a dickhead!!
Name the teams he’s managed since!!
But when push came to shove he backed his judgement of a young player.
Sign of a leader and a visionary. Made the right call. You can’t refute that as a fact.
And then sacked him to get in Poch. Great call.
Broad shoulders and a wide remit our Danny Boy.
Aston Villa; where he gave more game time to a young Jack Grealish.
Couldn’t even name “teams” plural.
Says it all!
Of course, if he's being offered a salary from Preston that we're not willing to beat, its safe to say we're not losing him against our will.
If Alfie suddenly has a breakout season you would think we would offer him considerably more than the best paid player at Preston who is on 17.5k a week, Alfie is said to be on 6.5k a week. We signed Archie Gray after he broke out in the Championship and he is said to be on about 10 times what Alfie is on.
What it says to me is that the F.A. need to sort out The Championship and possibly the rest of the pyramid.
The Premier League is very much a world league in 2025.
The Championship should be reduced to at least 20 teams to allow the promoted teams to play a similar brand and style of football as the Premier League.
My own preference would be to make the 92 clubs in 4 divisions into 90 clubs in 5 divisions.
18 teams in each league reducing the league fixtures to 34.
I would then turn the League Cup into a league format.
18 groups of five teams; one team from each league in a group.
It could become a Champions League format for the lower leagues; replacing the 12 lost league games with games against clubs from other leagues.
If Premier League clubs were allowed to field under 21 players, with impunity, and Premier League assistant managers could take the teams in these fixtures; it could be used as a method to measure the strength of each league and potentially good managers for lower league clubs.
Imagine an 18 team Championship below an 18 team Premier League?
2 up 2 down, throughout the leagues and the third bottom team in each league goes into the play offs with the 3rd 4th and 5th placed teams from the league below.
English managers and players could then get a look in and experience in lower leagues and via promotion.
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So, to recap.
You’d cut games 20% for all struggling lower league teams. Make lots extra get relegated as this comes in and more and more % get relegated as this tiers down.
Can’t see it being popular. Unless you are saying Prem rights get more trickle down to cover these gate and coverage losses?
Is there a problem with the Championship? The football is very entertaining and the crowds are very good compared with most leagues in Europe.
I hope Alfie can do well but Gray is a class above. How can you say not a prem lge midfielder when he has hardly played there. No doubt he will get more chances in midfield as the season goes on . Bentancur was supposed to be signing a new contract in the summer. Not happened yet. Maybe not sure on giving a 29 yr old next summer a 3-4 yr contract. Maybe lining up Gray for his place. .
But we spent 40M
On gray based on his performances for Leeds in champo. It wasn’t as if he was even one of the best players in that league. I remember we could have got Alex Scott for approx £20M who is not starting for Bmouth who wiped the floor with us.
Tbh I was also comparing with gray as a purchased player. Irola seems to have got active out of Scott who cost half as much as gray. Why we didn’t go for Scott I will never understand. He looks quality and is a boy hood spurs fan.
I think he wanted minutes.
Which we would not have guaranteed him. So he goes where he will play.
If we do end up buying him will probably be when he’s 23-26 years old
It’s such a strange ecosystem.
Look at Bergvall. 19? If he carries on in this trajectory he’s a Real Madrid level player.
Just right now he gets minutes with us.