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Management Ange: In/Out?

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In or out?

  • In

    Votes: 147 28.7%

  • Out

    Votes: 308 60.0%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 58 11.3%
  • Total voters
    513
dudu said:
If he was I despise him even more - what a self-entitled little cunt.
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Do you not think all coaches that get sacked generally want it?
Pre 21st century managers resigned when it wasn't working. Now there is so much money, none of them do. They could be miserable and hate their job, and they'd 100% take a team down whilst hoping for the sack and their money.
And when you've been sold lies by the likes of levy, it's hard to feel bad about that.
 
Brian Fantana said:
I know what you’re saying but levy would have no qualms about ditching his current manager and man brought in to take the flack. Especially when man brought in to take the flack isn’t doing that job and Levy is still getting pelters (quite rightly)!

Does it mean though if Ange does go, Munn picks the next bloke? I agree he should never have got his job either in the first place. He has zero experience in the PL or European football.
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If would guess Munn would be the person responsible for developing a short list of candidates but Levy would make the pick. I believe the whole premise of hiring Postecoglou was finding a way to play like Man City without paying for players at a Man City level. Postecoglou could say that he had a system that was so decisive that you could use lesser players and still get that style of play as long as the players committed to it. Whoever they would replace him with would probably be another high risk/high reward/low expense manager with a high press system.
 
Matt1882 said:
Do you not think all coaches that get sacked generally want it?
Pre 21st century managers resigned when it wasn't working. Now there is so much money, none of them do. They could be miserable and hate their job, and they'd 100% take a team down whilst hoping for the sack and their money.
And when you've been sold lies by the likes of levy, it's hard to feel bad about that.
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What lies? This is just more confirmation bias - assuming things that fit in with your narrative because it's warm, fuzzy and easy.

I cannot stand people who feel sorry for extremely wealthy grown human beings with agents and all their faculties who engage in and sign contracts with other parties and then, when they don't do their due diligence and invariably don't get their own way, they throw tantrums and act like little man-children and cry and winge and moan until they fucking ruin everything around them.

Conte wasn't lied to, he had all the info he needed to make an informed decision about whether to sign a contract for a vast amount of money - he signed it - he shouldn't have, that's on him.
 
FightingIllini said:
I do not think that, no.

Some do, but it's a pretty small percentage.

Conte at Tottenham was a uniquely weird, postmodern and ultimately toxic arrangement.

We were a pretty formidable outfit for the handful of months where the contradictions could be ignored though, credit where due.
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I think most coaches in football at most clubs hang on now until they're sacked. Who has actually resigned for the good of the club as well as their own reputation in the last decade?
There's too much money now. I reckon if there was no compensation for being shit at your job, almost all failing managers would walk when the going gets tough.
 
Matt1882 said:
I think most coaches in football at most clubs hang on now until they're sacked. Who has actually resigned for the good of the club as well as their own reputation in the last decade?
There's too much money now. I reckon if there was no compensation for being shit at your job, almost all failing managers would walk when the going gets tough.
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Oh sure, I agree with that, managers don't just walk away the way they used to. Which is a shame and speaks to the "grab every cent" mentality of the modern world (though also the length of contracts and the like).

But with most sackings, the manager in question wants to continue, it's the club that doesn't.
 
Out. Levy as well (but that ain't happening).
 
FightingIllini said:
Oh sure, I agree with that, managers don't just walk away the way they used to. Which is a shame and speaks to the "grab every cent" mentality of the modern world (though also the length of contracts and the like).

But with most sackings, the manager in question wants to continue, it's the club that doesn't.
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I felt like Rogers was just turning up for work every day at Leicester. He wasn't trying anymore. Think they didn't have enough money to sack him but could barely pay him, and he wasn't gonna walk for nothing.
People here acted as if he sent them down because he was crap, but it was being kept on too long when he wasn't tyring that did it.
 
Officially Ange Out

Should be on the phone to Iraola tonight, or failing that Frank or Potter

we're not even that good an attacking side anymore
 
Unless there is a new Manager lined up to take over permanently who plays attacking football and only 2 cB's as we cannot fill the fixtures without more CB's then Ange must stay.
 
There's only two options.

We accept that what we're seeing now is what we'll see the rest of the season, or we sack him and let someone else start rebuilding.

No one wants to do either one, but one of them has to be done. The form isn't turning around, we're not going to get a miracle in the transfer window, it's this way through a river of sewage or that way.
 
John Thomas said:
Remember all those people who yelled stuff like "just give me exciting, attacking football and I'm a happy billybob"

Well there's your answer.

Our fanbase is riddled with fucking born losers happy to accept mediocrity
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I for one am enjoying the attacking, entertaining football we're being treated to.
 
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