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Management Ange: In/Out?

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In or out?

  • In

    Votes: 121 26.8%
  • Out

    Votes: 282 62.4%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 49 10.8%

  • Total voters
    452
"Shiny" AVB????? LOL

He bombed at Chelsea..... We took a chance on him. Turns out he was crap all along and just had lightning in a bottle at Porto.



No indeed... I listed ALL of it above. There were multiple elements that all combined to the same picture of the bloke..... That he was the very man we deep down knew he was all along.



Disfunctional analogy, but whatever.


If anything, the criticism should be that we pinball from one managerial philosophy to the next; not that we are habitually seduced by neuveaux football (false)-prophets.


Ramos, Redknapp, Jose, Conte, Nuno nor BMJ were no such a thing.

Arguably Poch, AVB & Ange; fair enough.
Shiny AVB yes, he may have bombed at Chelsea, but that was a common occurrence and not something that overly damages a reputation. Besides which, I'm not as such referring to it in a football sense, AVB was young, still sen as highly promising from his Porto work, had been viewed as the new Mourinho (and we know how awestruck Levy is/wasby that man), and without getting too gay, quite pleasing on the eye.

In terms of promoting a certain image of the club, he ticked a lot more boxes than Redknapp.

There was also a story that Redknapp pissed Levy off by calling him at a funeral demanding a new contract, or something like that, which contributed. I don't believe that that and the England thing combined even, would have caused Levy to pull the trigger on Redknapp.

You mentioned AVB bombing at Chelsea, which if anything lends credence to the notion of Levy being seduced by the optics of AVB as manager, rather than actual footballing reasons.

Even without agreeing on specifics here, I think it highlights that Levy isn't always lead by footballing reasons in his decision making.
 
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Money is irrelevant? Kane cost us nothing. No amount of money in the world would convince Salah to play for us.

It's about quality. It is very difficult for Tottenham to attract top players. No player has ever dreamt of playing for Spurs. The best players want to go to Barca, Real, Juve, Athletico, United, City, Liverpool, PSG.

Nobody cares that Spurs won some cups in the 60s.

Spurs have only been relevant in modern times because of Son, Bale and Kane, who lifted us from medicore, to plucky underdogs.

Yet somehow Spurs fans think the squad Is entitled to success because the owners make a ton of money from hotels, pop concerts and exotic cheese.
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Money is irrelevant? Kane cost us nothing. No amount of money in the world would convince Salah to play for us.

It's about quality. It is very difficult for Tottenham to attract top players. No player has ever dreamt of playing for Spurs. The best players want to go to Barca, Real, Juve, Athletico, United, City, Liverpool, PSG.

Nobody cares that Spurs won some cups in the 60s.

Spurs have only been relevant in modern times because of Son, Bale and Kane, who lifted us from medicore, to plucky underdogs.

Yet somehow Spurs fans think the squad Is entitled to success because the owners make a ton of money from hotels, pop concerts and exotic cheese.
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For Salah it appears money is highly relevant! He'd play for anyone for £1m a week. Even us!
 
There was also a story that Redknapp pissed Levy off by calling him at a funeral demanding a new contract, or something like that, which contributed. I don't believe that that and the England thing combined even, would have caused Levy to pull the trigger on Redknapp.

I literally already mentioned that. It's was Levy's Mum's funeral; no less.

Hate Levy's stewardship or not; that's a fucking twat move.

Clearly there were a number of reasons pertaining to HRs conduct that led to his sacking; before clasping at straws that he was sacked cos AVB was "shiny".




Anyway; it seems as if you've now broadened your theory out to DL merely hiring based on a less defined notion of optics (of varying flavours).... Again, it's far from the case that our last dozen or so managers all had a similar veneer............ Poch / Jose / AVB / Ange /Nuno (eg) are each all very different in respect of whatever appeal they did hold; be that philosopically or in terms of stature.
 
I stopped using my Ange mug about three months ago, then two weeks ago I put it in the loft. If we lose against Everton and Leicester, then it's going in the bin.
If he can't get a result against those two, then he really is out of his depth.
My patience is running out.
 
I literally already mentioned that. It's was Levy's Mum's funeral; no less.

Hate Levy's stewardship or not; that's a fucking twat move.

Clearly there were a number of reasons pertaining to HRs conduct that led to his sacking; before clasping at straws that he was sacked cos AVB was "shiny".




Anyway; it seems as if you've now broadened your theory out to DL merely hiring based on a less defined notion of optics (of varying flavours).... Again, it's far from the case that our last dozen or so managers all had a similar veneer............ Poch / Jose / AVB / Ange /Nuno (eg) are each all very different in respect of whatever appeal they did hold; be that philosopically or in terms of stature.
Yeah I'm out, I've stated my opinion, I'm not inclined to debate a simple throwaway comment ad nauseum, we're hardly dealing in cold hard facts here so it's not as though we can hash it out and determine who's more right.
 
Yeah I'm out, I've stated my opinion, I'm not inclined to debate a simple throwaway comment ad nauseum, we're hardly dealing in cold hard facts here so it's not as though we can hash it out and determine who's more right.

Fine... Know your theory is baggier than my oldest y-fronts though.

There's nothing to liken the hiring of Poch to Jose... Literally nothing. They were polar opposites at the time.
 
I'm feeling numb about it all.

United and Spam have new managers and Spurs are looking ropier with each shit performance.

Ange can only survive this if he wins the Europa and has an unbeaten last ten league games of the season or similar.

It's looking less and less likely at the moment.

Anything less than two wins against Everton and Leicester and Ange has to be toast.

Lose one of those games and Levy has to hire someone in to avoid relegation.
 
Fine... Know your theory is baggier than my oldest y-fronts though.

There's nothing to liken the hiring of Poch to Jose... Literally nothing. They were polar opposites at the time.
Personally I'm getting the impression that you're taking totally the wrong end of the stick to what I intended with my comment, but you know, I've had similar conversations with you before and it's not worth it...

Feel free to crown yourself internet king of the world for another day.

Good work champ.

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