Agree but and all that.
I am with you to an extent but more so because I am just baffled by how inconsistent and mentally frail we are.
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Agree but and all that.
I am with you to an extent but more so because I am just baffled by how inconsistent and mentally frail we are.
wait....but you could quite easily make the same list in reverse, for games we should have won or drawn if it not for this and that
We haven't played Chelsea yet so haven't beaten them.
We drew away to city last season and won this season when they're at their worst.
We played Woolwich this season and lost. Again.
United are not a top 6 side.
We are where we are in the league, which is as close to 4th as 15th, because we can't string 2 wins together.
We are yet to play Liverpool or Chelsea, have lost to Brighton, beat the worst City side in a generation, haven't played Forest and beat Villa in the middle of their worst run of form for years.
All of our positive results can be viewed in 2 totally different ways. And neither is right or wrong.
We beat a dreadful City. We beat a dreadful Villa. We beat a dreadful Man United. We beat a dreadful West Ham. We beat a dreadful Everton. 19 of our 28 goals were scored twisting the knife into teams who were on their knees.
Meanwhile, 1 Vs Leicester and dropped 2 points, 1 Vs Ipswich and dropped all 3, 0 Vs Woolwich and dropped 3 points, 1 Vs Newcastle and dropped 3 points, 0 Vs Palace and dropped all 3 points.
Fact is, goals scored isn't a true reflection of how good or bad a team is. We have scored a lot of goals, sure. But the majjority of them were scored in a small selection of games.
You may not know him, as he was before your time as a Spurs fan, but there was this player we had called Jermain Defoe. He used to score 10-25 goals a season for us every season. But fans used to give him stick because he would score 5 in one match against Wigan then not score again for the next 3 matches.
This is what we do now as a team. 4 against City then 1 Vs Fulham. 4 V WHU then 0 Vs Palace.
We could easily have scored less goals this season and picked up more points.
We could have beaten City 1-0 instead of 4-0 but beaten Fulham 1-0 if we could keep a clean sheet in that game.
I bet the games you think we should have won we actually shouldn't.
Lots of possession and "on paper" shots on target don't mean we should have won games.
I'm struggling to think of a game where we should have won but didn't.
I had my doubts about the football then. I was maybe too happy with the wins to complain about winning, but I was definitely questioning whether any of that huff and puff nonsense was actually entertaining.todd1882 had my back last season when I pointed this out.
That was it. Everyone else piled on. Disagrees got removed when the forum changed but it was a controversial take.
At one points it was up to 200 disagrees….. maybe.
What a stupid argument, relying on hypothetical scenarios just to enforce your opinion.
Had we not lost our two centre backs for a period after the Chelsea match
Had we not lost Maddison blah blah
This thread is full of clowns man
But he would be working with a better squad at Spurs.
Doesn't always work like that.
There are actual self confessed Ange Postecoglou fans in this thread who only started following Spurs and joined this forum when he became manager. And will in all likelihood leave whenever he does....That's bizarre in itself.
But these very fans are pontificating about supposed negativity and telling life long, dyed-in-the-wool yids how we should be rallying around and embracing under performance and mediocrity......I mean wow!! Now that is just downright weird
This fucking place, man.
People can have different opinions to you and write them down sometimes, it's not a crime - you don't own this forum or decide what a Spurs fan is, and quite frankly it's absurd you try to own what a spurs fan should be constantly.
It's not your club, it's every supporter's club, equally.
But they're not Spurs fans.
The jokes and snide accusations about actual fans are daft compared to the people who admit they're not fans.
But then surely you would be all over the Newcastle result claiming that we were unlucky - all over the Roma results saying we were unlucky, all over the Leicester result saying we were unlucky, and the Woolwich result that we were unlucky.
All those games (I'm not 100% sure about Roma tbh) we had more shots, more shots on target and were, in the same vein as you are saying we were lucky, unlucky not to get more out of the game -
Surely it has to go both ways?
Im not sure who isnt a spurs fan here
I actually disagree, someone who’s only started following the club very recently and only supports one player/person on the team (aka the people being referred to) is quite different from the group of lifers who have been watching every match since their teens. At the very least, I wouldn’t consider them equal.
Agree, and sometimes it does!
Meh, I find dismissing people's opinions because you think you have more of a right to be a supporter is weird.
You do you though.
You're not some superior fan mate, there's no such thing - you don't get anymore brownie points for following the club for 20 years and knowing what team we put out in the 91 FA cup final, mental to dismiss fellow fans just because they haven't supported the club for a long time.
In fact there's some 'fans' on here who have been following the club for a long time but don't act like fans at all...
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I don’t like people with agendas who are interested in propping up “their guy” over the good of the club. I’d said the same thing to the Croatians in the late 2000s. It’s fine to be a fan but take your time to learn the club holistically before you speak on it.
If someone comes in here as an Ange fan and starts taking the piss out of the club and us actual Spurs fans I’m going to stand up for myself. Guess you don’t mind though.
You do you as well.
uh huh, so it works one way and not the other. we're lucky when we win, but never unlucky to lose...got ya
I will, I find it weirder when people who claim to be actual Spurs fans spend 90% of their time shitting on the cub, players, manager and everyone associated with it. But I guess that is what being a pwoper legacy fan is nowadays.