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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
I bet the games you think we should have won we actually shouldn't.
Lots of possession and "on paper" shots on target don't mean we should have won games.
I'm struggling to think of a game where we should have won but didn't.

Newcastle 100%
Leicester 100%

Brighton - probably a draw would have been fair as their first half was as shite as our 2nd.
 
We were well on top against Leicester but lost control and they had as good as if not better chances in the second half.
That's the point though. Had we taken even half of the chances we wasted, Leicester wouldn't have had the opportunity to get any momentum to get back in the game.

If we're 3-0 up, do you think Leicester get even half the chances they did in the latter stages of the game?
 
That's the point though. Had we taken even half of the chances we wasted, Leicester wouldn't have had the opportunity to get any momentum to get back in the game.

If we're 3-0 up, do you think Leicester get even half the chances they did in the latter stages of the game?

It's not even the argument is it?

If we were lucky to beat Sheff United, a team we had 28 shots against, 10 on target, 71% possession, then we were unlucky to draw with Leicester.

I am not even sure how this can be contested,
 
Tbf I don't think you should take any results in isolation. It's the bigger picture reflected by the league table that's the only true and meaningful barometer.
That shows we've lost 5 matches already from 13. Over a third of the season. Our worst start since 2008. And whoever you aportion the blame to, that should be unacceptable to any Spurs supporter.

Unless it's us finishing 5th last season right?

Seem to recall you agreeing with a lot of caveats to that finish and a lot of results taken throughout two seasons to try and take away from the league table last season
 
It's not even the argument is it?

If we were lucky to beat Sheff United, a team we had 28 shots against, 10 on target, 71% possession, then we were unlucky to draw with Leicester.

I am not even sure how this can be contested,
When it's not us it's "what serious teams do, they find a way to win "

When it's us, "we were just lucky."

You'd expect to hear that from fans of the teams you'd beaten, not from your own supposed "support."
 
When it's not us it's "what serious teams do, they find a way to win "

When it's us, "we were just lucky."

You'd expect to hear that from fans of the teams you'd beaten, not from your own supposed "support."

Yeah, and look, I don't want to dismiss the underlying concerns right now. We were not unlucky to lose to Palace, Ipswich or draw with Fulham - in my opinion, those points dropped were deserved.

But people should be able to take a smidge of a step back and have some objectivity about what constitutes a lucky win or loss.
 
Yeah, and look, I don't want to dismiss the underlying concerns right now. We were not unlucky to lose to Palace, Ipswich or draw with Fulham - in my opinion, those points dropped were deserved.

But people should be able to take a smidge of a step back and have some objectivity about what constitutes a lucky win or loss.
Couldn't agree more.

I've said repeatedly that we need to improve our consistency, but that should come in time. There's enough evidence, both statistically and visually, to suggest we're on the right path.
 
That's the point though. Had we taken even half of the chances we wasted, Leicester wouldn't have had the opportunity to get any momentum to get back in the game.

If we're 3-0 up, do you think Leicester get even half the chances they did in the latter stages of the game?
I don’t recall the Leicester keeper making loads of good saves. More like a performance that was quite ineffectual overall - a lot of possession but not much intent with the ball.

Newcastle I agree we were quite unlucky
 
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