Friggin WOW.
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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Friggin WOW.
This is a better poll that the TFC one on twitter I think, a lot less gooners and chavs IMO...
View: https://x.com/oJaayCo/status/1881083903462805897
Although bloody close.
View: https://x.com/oJaayCo/status/1881083903462805897
Although bloody close.
I just cannot get past this, or what his thinking was.
NFL is the richest in the world. The finances I think I've mentioned before that it is structured so that the owners can make money in the US... and US base plays an absolute role in their worth. Do you think the New York Knicks are worth 9-10 billion because of their fanbase and success? No way.
Creating the Super League can fill their pockets for sure, but for what is in it for us? We are already considered wealthy in current standard and still can't win anything. It will not make us anymore wealthier or a better team because we are in the super league. We would probably be the laughing stock.
He won't.
He's not. Never was, never will be.
The old make it personal when you're literally out of anything remotely intelligent to say. Kudos, pal.
Ps: Roberto Martinez's Wigan won the FA Cup in 2013, beating Roberto Mancini's City. If you can catch my drift.
Would anyone swap Ange for Amorin?
Somehow pinching a league or FA cup would me me as a fan over the moon but wouldn't mean as much to me as the 2016/17 season did where Spurs were the best team in the country and only didn't win the title because Chelsea didn't have Europe and we had a few very costly draws early on.
Sustained league competitiveness is the ultimate goal. Trophies usually come hand in hand - unless you're Lego Head
Sustained league competitiveness is the ultimate goal. Trophies usually come hand in hand - unless you're Lego Head
When the ship is sinking, don't reach for the life jackets, just head for the boiler room and lock yourself in.
We have a Lego head.
Don't you understand, pal...if he wins us a trophy, it automatically means he's God's gift to football and Spurs. Can't be cause of the players, luck etc. Nah he's obviously a genius.
But on the other hand, when he loses (which he does often), it's evidently cause the refs, media and other teams' fans are against us. And our players are shit, injured etc.
Praise him to fuck when he wins, absolve him of any wrongdoing when he loses.
Richard Arlison
you're obviously entitled to your opinion and fuck me, you may be proven right at the end...but right now your blind defending of Ange - despite everything pointing to him being the worst manager we've ever had - reminds me of how LP used to come up with the most ridiculous ways of backing Levy despite the bald that's crystal clear failings.
More successful? Yes.
Better at the job? No friggin chance.
What's in it for us, supporters? Fuck all, really.
What's in it for the owners? Billions of pounds.
To understand the attraction, you have to understand that billionaires finances are wholly different than ours. They don't collect paycheques/dividends. This is why few stocks these days pay dividends - dividends are coveted by average investors, but useless to billionaires they don't want income. They live on credit extended to them based on the value of their holdings. So when Spurs' values doubles, Lewis' values doubles and his access to capital greatly increases. That capital can be accessed to fund further investments. Money begets money.
What's in it for the club? A more competitive landscape. A closed structure Super League would enact salary controls - the billionaires don't want to frivolously waste money needlessly on players. They'd still pay the highest salaries in the world (like the NBA) so would get the best players - but collectively bargaining salary controls provides a fixed cost of labor that can be pegged to the fixed value of collectively bargained revenue (broadcasting, merchandising, etc.) And guarantees profits and growrh for owners.
In a fixed salary structure league, who "succeeds" and "fails" is about who is the best and most efficient at squad building. So, with out current setup, we'd probably not thrive, obviously. Liverpool, probably would. But the chances of us winning would be much higher in that league than in our current league, where we have to be exponentially more efficient because we have to overcome a base spending inequity. In a fixed salary Super League, we'd just have to be better at spending the same amount of money we're allowed to spend.
This is why the Knicks and Cowboys are not successful, despite being the vastly most valuable teams in their sports - they're shit at building teams and cannot leverage their value advantage to offset their lack of squad building talent.
Sounds a lot like Pep ball with De Bruyne
I'll leave better or worse to the experts.
We win trophies I'll be more than happy with the worst coach
Caveat
I also don’t think Ange has played a bad hand well and most weeks he’s doing things that fuck me off. Which is why I’m ambivalent.
It's one of only three things Ange is basically has full Svengali like powers and Levy is hypnotised, we have incoming owners even in part who want a say, or most likely, we have tapped up Iraola or Silva and they have agreed to come in the summer and will not walk out of their teams. The last seems most plausible.
If the Super League meant we didn't have to deal with PGMOL officials, the FA scheduling, and the incessant army of fan tv pundits from skysports mafia clubs, then maybe it's worth considering.
When the idea was first floated, I couldn't have been more against it. The nonsense we see from the administrators of the game here and the culture that has built up around them is slowly changing my mind. If I ever felt like the rub of the green was eventually coming our way, or if we would even get balanced representation, then maybe I'd feel different but we are about to watch City and Chelsea get off scott-free with blatant cheating... Why not see what the Super League is all about?
Right now he's got us on the brink of relegation, 12 defeats already and still 16 games left. Humiliated by Coventry...and Tamworth. Could've lost to Ferencvaros, Qarabag and AZ. Should've conceded about 12 to Galatasaray and Roma. Humbled by not just our cunty neighbours, but Brighton, Palace. Dropped points to powerhouses like Leicester, fucking Ipswich at home.
Everyone in the footy media, ex pros, fans of other teams...they all know he's a clown, that his system is jokes and that he's an arrogant, unbearable prick to boot. Not even limited to the UK, they think likewise in France, Germany, Italy...
But yeah we beat City and United a couple times, taking a 1-goal lead to Anfield. And he says mate a lot.
Yipee fucking doo.
This is a pretty fair take considering what we are seeing on the pitch recently.
But there isn't a coach in the world who would come in right now, with the injuries we have, play 2 games a week and get more out of this squad without incoming transfers or some players back from injury.