I mean, if he loses against Ruud Van Nistelroy actively feuding with his own players then yeah. There's not much defending that.
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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No way has he actually said that
He did. I couldn’t believe what I was hearing. He said he’s 100% certain that the club is in a better place now since when he joined. He actually said that with a straight face.
Does he avoid looking at the league table just like he does defensive tactics. The level of arrogance is astounding.
I find all this laughable he should have gone ages ago so the delay is just Levy not being able to swallow his pride.
I seriously want him to stay
I seriously want him to stay
The usual response when mentioning the unprecedented amount of injuries is..
"But...but Ipswich and palace! "
Perfectly fine to not rate the manger, but it shouldn't destroy your IQ at the same time
The injuries don't absolve Ange of anything because they are due in large part to his playing style, training regimen and lack of rotation. Along with a fair slice of bad luck.The usual response when mentioning the unprecedented amount of injuries is..
"But...but Ipswich and palace! "
Perfectly fine to not rate the manger, but it shouldn't destroy your IQ at the same time
The Ipswich/Palace thing is fair to point out. As is our shocking form at the back end of last season with a fully fit squad.
We entered this season with effectively 17 senior outfield players. The lowest for a number of seasons.
At a time when EL games increased and the amount of injury time played has grown significantly too.
On paper you need more players. But we started with less than usual!!
Why?
Ange’s choice?
Decision by the people who have been put in charge of football?
Or by the board in a cost cutting exercise?
We kept hearing Ange was not someone Levy could boss around like that. He’s cone out saying everything is in his head. But is it? If we take him at face value he’s the architect of this mess.
And I’m not sure any manager would look at that number of players and our current level of injuries and want the Tottenham job right now. It’s a nightmare scenario.
It’s insane we started the season with so few senior players when we knew that Bentacour was also due to be out for a number of games.
It’s just negligence when you really look at it.
I’m not sure anyone knows who max robson is either!! (I think that’s his name anyway)
This guy is just honest.
I love him as a person and I respect most of his decisions.
He ain't perfect. He was wrong about Spence and I think he is and has been wrong about Lankshear.
So not doing part of his job about pushing the board to get players in. That explains 100% why he is still here because he doesn’t ask questions about spending money.
I think he probably is doing his job in that case.
He did
“I am absolutely 100% confident that we are in a much better place today in all areas of the football club, than when we started”
15th
.He literally says in the video that we need players in.
Well first of all I get to 19 without counting Austin or Reguilon, so not sure of your math.
But then also, Ange sanctioned 65M to be spent on Gray and Odobert, and he's spoken openly particularly in Gray's case about choosing that over spending on more seasoned players because of the potential.
The project has always been to get younger and to build with patience through bringing along young talent. Gray, Bergvall, Odobert, Moore, these guys were supposed to be the squad depth and gain experience as they filled in for the first XI along the way.
Now that doesn't mean we couldn't or shouldn't have added better quality here or there, but the basic shape of the plan has been clear enough.
The problem is that the injury situation has thrown the plan out the window, and the club is doing nothing to keep the Ange ship afloat.
I believe Levy and the board and the new backroom structure is absolutely determined to see this through, bar extreme relegation threat I really think Ange survives and probably starts next season. But he's going to do it at a massive credibility deficit with the fans and the media, and with probably no silverware to show for it, because in a moment of need the club with the most financial flexibility on earth wouldn't lift a finger to help him.
10 players left in the summer and we now have 10 first team players out. We signed 4 18 year olds when we knew we were playing twice a week. This season was always going to be a bigger rebuild than last season.He did
“I am absolutely 100% confident that we are in a much better place today in all areas of the football club, than when we started”
15th
If we get some players back and avoid relegation and the board makes some serious signings in the summer. I’m talking 3 ready now players aged 23-28. Next season should be a lot better.
You also have to remember that apart from Man City, no other club Has finished top 4 every season. 25 years ago the same 4-5 clubs finished in the top 4 every season. Those days are gone. I think the new norm is expect to finish 4 then 8th then 5th then 10th etc.
This league is way too competitive now and even the small clubs have great managers. Sacking a manager after a bad season is going to become less frequent imo. Clubs will look more at the bigger picture. Perhaps Newcastle should have sacked Eddie Howe last season but that would have been a massive mistake. I see us having a recovery season next year
Did you actually watch the press conference? Take the comment in the context he meant.He did
“I am absolutely 100% confident that we are in a much better place today in all areas of the football club, than when we started”
15th
We are in a better place. In all the cups and fighting for top 6.
He did
“I am absolutely 100% confident that we are in a much better place today in all areas of the football club, than when we started”
15th
My optimistic interpretation of this:
We're like a plane whose engine has failed: it seemed ok since we coasted for a bit before losing altitude. Then shit got real. Lange and co. have been working frantically to repair the damage, which is now patched up and sputtering to life. At the moment we are still dropping while we pick up speed for the big hurrah.
Basically, it's going to be like that bit in the movies where you don't think they're going to clear the cliff. The camera cuts to the the view from the top of the cliff, everything is quiet. Too quiet. And then, PHWOOM! The plane nicks the edge of the cliff as it zooms over the top of your head.
The old battered Cessna is Ange and Levy has probably paid to be exec. prod. so he can be the maverick pilot. All the flakes screaming 'we're going to die!' will be listed as 'Flake #1' etc. But they'll be happy they were in it and point it anyone who'll listen forevermore.
They don't want to because they can't have their little mean girl bitch fest at the manager.
My optimistic interpretation of this:
We're like a plane whose engine has failed: it seemed ok since we coasted for a bit before losing altitude. Then shit got real. Lange and co. have been working frantically to repair the damage, which is now patched up and sputtering to life. At the moment we are still dropping while we pick up speed for the big hurrah.
Basically, it's going to be like that bit in the movies where you don't think they're going to clear the cliff. The camera cuts to the the view from the top of the cliff, everything is quiet. Too quiet. And then, PHWOOM! The plane nicks the edge of the cliff as it zooms over the top of your head.
The old battered Cessna is Ange and Levy has probably paid to be exec. prod. so he can be the maverick pilot. All the flakes screaming 'we're going to die!' will be listed as 'Flake #1' etc. But they'll be happy they were in it and point it anyone who'll listen forevermore.
While reading this analogy I had to think of the german pilot who commited suicide by crashing the plane into a mountain. He locked himself into the Cockpit the copilot and stewardesses were banging on the door but he didnt open.
In this analogy levy is the pilot ange and co knocking on the door...
My apologies if its not funny im german
