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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
If it is, what is the point? Surely every fan of every club should be walking away from it if it's rigged?

They should -

I mean - lol - surely no one can think it isn't after seeing what Chelsea did, let alone City - how is this news to anyone?

People get sucked in because it is a cultural and social ritual - something that is deep-rooted in all of us - a tradition, a pastime - it's all a con that uses people's emotional connection to a thing (football club) and how our brains are wired when it comes to storytelling and narratives....

Like, its not that hard to manipulate the masses, especially when it comes to the offer of an 'escape from real life' like with sport, when all the while the entire thing is designed to make frankly obscene amounts of money off us.

I know all of this and i watch every week and talk to people about it all the time..... but i stopped actually letting results and whatever get to me..... i have no control over it, and those that do are 99% of the time the people who have the most money and are using that money for their own betterment.
 
Impressive how people are naive, a lot of our fans still defending this fraud. Do you really believe our team is bad enough to be 15th on the table? Do you really believe Ange wan't backed? Conte and Mourinho achieved a way better results with squads a lot worse than we have nos, without any decent player on the bench tô step in, both of the will never be battered as we were yesterday playing with this team. Since Ange arrived here we bought an entire team for him, I doubt he didn't want any of this players, some of them were meant to be the next big thing, others were stabliahed players, still, everyone seems an amateur playing under Ange, why? Do you really think all of those players are shite? I bet that If avaliable on the market any of the top 4 teams ok the league would want any of our starting eleven, bar Johnson maybe. Just accept reality, Ange is a pub manager.
 
Pretty baffling subs again tonight. Bissouma wasn’t great but is at least more mobile and involved than Bentancur who was plodding around doing the square route of fuck all all night. Kulusevski could shit on Ange’s face and not get subbed.

Bentancur’s, Gray, Kulusevski for Bergval (Bissouma back to 6) Porro and Moore on leaving Spence as LB should have been the call.

I get that Porro is knackered and hasn’t been great but starting Gray over him for this game was odd.

Also, didn’t get starting Bentancur at 6 and Bissouma as the 8. Should have been Bissouma 6 and Bergval 8.
 
They should -

I mean - lol - surely no one can think it isn't after seeing what Chelsea did, let alone City - how is this news to anyone?

People get sucked in because it is a cultural and social ritual - something that is deep-rooted in all of us - a tradition, a pastime - it's all a con that uses people's emotional connection to a thing (football club) and how our brains are wired when it comes to storytelling and narratives....

Like, its not that hard to manipulate the masses, especially when it comes to the offer of an 'escape from real life' like with sport, when all the while the entire thing is designed to make frankly obscene amounts of money off us.

Not much of an escape from reality at the moment when the escape was the idea that maybe, just maybe, we might be supporting a team who had a chance.

Feels like the exact opposite of an "escape" from reality atm. Feels more like a tool for asserting an acceptance of reality.

I know all of this and i watch every week and talk to people about it all the time..... but i stopped actually letting results and whatever get to me..... i have no control over it, and those that do are 99% of the time the people who have the most money and are using that money for their own betterment.

Not giving this sport any of my money whilst this is the type of discussion it is raising. My time and interest is pretty much done as well. It's probably more habit and some kind of addiction that is still holding some of my time. Not for long tbh.
 
i think he's gone after sunday. we'll have a week to let mason and the boys get set up. it's prob wishful thinking but i don't think levy is going to let the rot spread any further. i think he wanted to let him coach the semi just to blunt any criticism like he got with the jose final but it's done now. villa will put us to the sword and he'll be gone.
 
Not much of an escape from reality at the moment when the escape was the idea that maybe, just maybe, we might be supporting a team who had a chance.

Feels like the exact opposite of an "escape" from reality atm. Feels more like a tool for asserting an acceptance of reality.



Not giving this sport any of my money whilst this is the type of discussion it is raising. My time and interest is pretty much done as well. It's probably more habit and some kind of addiction that is still holding some of my time. Not for long tbh.
Tbf you are still pretty active here

Don’t discount the possibility that a good coach can have this squad playing really well next season. I believe it can happen
 
Tbf you are still pretty active here

Don’t discount the possibility that a good coach can have this squad playing really well next season. I believe it can happen

For how long? 6 months?

What good is "playing really well" anyway? This is a club that has done "playing really well" before. The goal now is to win things. You believe a good coach can get us winning things next season?
 
That’s only because you’re not allowed to post anything negative on there. It’s completely pointless.

I did and am currently banned from posting until the end of March. It was a 6 month ban!
I went on there a couple hours ago out of morbid curiosity.. There's actually a consensus on there right now, that "at least Ange was able to get this team to show fight", in reference to last nights game.

My jaw almost hit the floor.. You can try and defend the current situation in a lot of ways.. But surely no thinking person in good conscience, can say that what we saw last night was a team where the senior players laid down everything they had.
 
But some fans, I shit you not, applauded it
i know. this postecoglou experience really has been an eye opener for many reasons. its made me realise how fucking dumb most fans are. its such a simple game, watched by billions, yet it seems the majority are sooo fucking clueless about it. theres still spurs fans i know personally that just dont have the slightest idea how poor this manager is, theres been red flags galore and theyve missed every single one of them ( or not understood the seriousness of it)

now we find ourselves here 18 months later.....it was inevitable.
 
Of course we should cut him some slack because of the injury list. It has been horrendous and any PL teams’ results would have suffered to some degree with something akin to it.

However, the one area I had some optimism for Ange in, at the time he was appointed, was that this was the man who was going to overhaul the culture in our club and drive us on to future success by completely changing the mentality of players & coaches and so on. Even though he never came from an elite footballing background — he was older, maybe wiser, articulate enough, and would have the minerals to bring about the changes.

After 18 months or so, I would have expected to see some green shoots regarding the tougher mentality and I’m not seeing any of this from players who were here before he arrived. If this was one of his strengths and a main platform for his appointment, it hasn’t worked. Coupled with his poor tactical nous, poor use of subs, game management etc — he really isn’t up to it.
 
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