Yes, all this is true. But (opinion coming up), when a level of X's built up against a person, people started to foul vote en masse. It seems as though that's not really happening anymore. I may be wrong, but I never am.
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There you go again, playing down the achievement of winning a trophy, you are literally solidfying my post lmao
Everything else you've conflated here is irrelevant.
I used to find it daft that back in the day winning the more prestigious FA Cup got you into the less prestigious Cup Winners Cup, whilst winning the less prestigious League Cup got you into the more prestigious Uefa Cup...
Both the European competitions were much more prestigious back then, before the CL became the be all and end all. I wonder, is it really more profitable financially to have one golden goose and two afterthought trophies, over three very prestigious ones?
I mean I'm sure it must be, it wouldn't be very in character for Uefa to be leaving money on the table, I just can't really fathom the logic of it.
I don't really think it's fair to say that winning the EL will prove anybody wrong.
He is a poor manager at this level, he is out of his depth, and I'll be absolutely delighted if we win the EL, but the level of opposition conquered along the way means that it simply can't be used as a counter argument to the dire league performance.
In terms of overall excitement, personally I'd be much more excited about the potential win if it felt like we were a really good side and the trophy felt like reward for that, or if we were a genuinely exciting bunch and it looked like the beginning of a period of sustained success.
Unfortunately right now, neither are true. The general consensus is that almost everything needs to be ripped up and begun anew, from manager, to playing personnel, to overall behind the scenes structure. So as exciting as it is, it's not as exciting as it should be. It's just a freak season that we might somehow come away the beneficiaries of.
Yeah I know, he's so fucking boring and predictable, arrogant fuck as well
I keep getting you can't vote again for 30 days
It’s 16th vs 17th, you guys are absolutely insane acting like admitting the quality might not be the highest is some form of heresy.
It’s still a cup, it would still be a great day and awesome to win, but absolutely the levels aren’t great or two teams hovering about relegation wouldn’t both be finalists lmao.
Absolutely wild how admitting this makes you a loser. Apparently we should all look at the sky and say it’s yellow to make you imbeciles happy.
Lol mate I've been posting on spurs forums for over 20 years, written for Spurs online mags, you ha e no clue who I am.
I'd love them to go back to the old format, even for a season, just to see what happens. IIRC it was considered pretty close in prestige between the UEFA and CWC. There wasn't actually all that much between them in how hard they were to win, though as explained previously, UEFA had more strong teams and so was the strongest, but not the most prestigous, of the three.
A big change of course, and a sad one tbh, is the huge concentration of resources and strength in fewer teams these days vs back then. There were literally dozens of strong teams back then, and a well coached side with a great manager could come in and do very well or even win one of these three tournaments.
Fair. I am more positive on the playing side that you. I think we are 2-3 elite players away from a really decent top 5 squad. We will never win the league with Levy, so that's about as good (plus cups) as we can expect.
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You say you're just talking facts but the truth is that when we won the Cup Winners' Cup in 1963 there were only 16 teams in the whole competition - three two-legged knock-out games and a final in Rotterdam, 7 games in total.
We beat Rangers, Slovan Bratislava and OFK Belgrade to meet Atleti in the final.
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I wouldn't be surprised if their Chairman didn't fly in to try an get Iraola to stay.
He wouldn't need to fly over to offer him a new contract, he could do that via a conference call or at the end of the season?
Wouldn't surprise me after the Ange hiring fiasco if Levy hasn't already got a manager lined up.
What many in here are glossing over is that if we continue this form into next season we will be in a relegation fight.
Forget about one win in our last eleven, i understand Ange is keeping players back ready for next week, but we have been terrible way before entering the EL knock out stages.
Nothing has convinced me that if he stays anything will change, and the EL opposition has been well below PL standards.
He really is at a point of no return. Thank fuck.