I really like the guy and I am thrilled that you lead Spurs to a trophy ...but I still don't think he's the right man, unfortunately. But I would love to be proven wrong...
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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I really like the guy and I am thrilled that you lead Spurs to a trophy ...but I still don't think he's the right man, unfortunately. But I would love to be proven wrong...
Sorry mate, this is pure loser mentality.
You’re first or you’re last Ricky Bobby. The team has tasted first and that will influence their mentality a shit old more than losing the CL final in 2019 did.
Are you genuinely telling me you felt the club accomplished more after losing the final in 2019 than last night?
That is deadset insane to me.
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Here in Oz I have several gooner mates (sad but true).
For them, this Spurs season could not have been more perfect, a Euro cup for Ange and 17th in the league.
I did ask them what would they prefer - 2nd in the league or a Euro cup - and they all said 2nd in the league.
But I do sense jealousy.
One of them also said: fair play to Ange, he's shown them how to win. The absolute worst thing they could do now is sack him, so let's hope they do.
For them, this Spurs season could not have been more perfect, a Euro cup for Ange and 17th in the league.
I did ask them what would they prefer - 2nd in the league or a Euro cup - and they all said 2nd in the league.
But I do sense jealousy.
One of them also said: fair play to Ange, he's shown them how to win. The absolute worst thing they could do now is sack him, so let's hope they do.
I don’t even want to think about it yet. Plenty of time for that, Now’s the time for celebrating. I think they’ll keep him on now rightly or wrongly.
2nd gets you nothing sadly. No trophy for 2nd.
Woolwich have had a better season in general terms, much better results game to game. But in the history books we will be remember for 24/25, they won’t, they didn’t even make the final which at least would have been a footnote.
Run that one past me again.....it's a better achievement to get to a European final and LOSE than get to a European final and WIN a trophy. You must be an exception surely - after 17 years without a trophy and 41 years since our last European trophy are you honestly expecting any Spurs fan to agree that winning our first trophy in a generation is less of an achievement than constantly failing?
It will be to avoid being sacked. Because if he stays from day one he’ll be fighting a battle to prove he should still be here. That will overshadow everything. Look at his press conference even after winning the trophy, he’s still making defensive comments about himself and his ability. That won’t stop next year either.
Personally, I think he will stay on the basis that why would he quit when he can get sacked and get a bigger payout. Plus the club won’t want the negative PR that goes with sacking a manager who won a trophy.
CL is a real competition compared to EL. I agree with you. EL is lower grade comp than even english league cup (because you eventually play real prem heavyweights). 2019 was a much bigger footballing achievement than the EL cup we won yesterday, no question about it.
Glad everyone is having good time, but they shouldn’t get carried away, and should try to maintain some perspective.
Champions of Europe? Champions of Europe Junior League is what it really is. I don’t think we beat a single CL team all season.
I think a part of why I want Postecoglou out is I don't like his personality. He came in and told fans and the media what they wanted to hear and then became angry and negative when the losses piled up and anyone questioned him.
Genuinely fuck off. We just won a major European trophy and our own fans are downplaying it?
Get to fuck.
He'll revert to form if he's retained. Alternately charming and angry.
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More of an achievement to lose.
So according to your logic, losing the 2019 champions league final, is our greatest achievement since 1960/1961?
But pretending the 17th place finish didn't happen is exactly what people will do in the glow of a trophy. Look at this board, it's already happening. Organizations hate tough choices. Spurs will keep Postecoglou because it is the easy thing to do, not the right thing.
I hated him when we lose and wanted him out badly. But who wouldn't reacted badly? Poch, Mourinho, Conte - they all had their share of bad outbursts.
I find him arrogant with his bullish snaps. But then you see all the social media reactions from our players now - Madders gave back a lot to those doubters, Porro laughed it off the criticism that he couldn't defend, and even Johnson posted an IG story with Son captioned "fucking spursy". So perhaps it turns out everyone in the club was bullish but only Ange could front that all, until we won.
I thought he had no plan B. But last night was the masterclass of parking the bus that worked.
He wanted to change our culture and mentality, and was making the fans very divisive. Yet we all, mostly I guess, celebrated the win so wildly yesterday and leave many of us crying. The rebuild was painful - it could well be more painful in the coming days, but we could well be winning more too.
He fucking won us the European title. He won me back. I'm back to Ange in. Give him the new season.
I find him arrogant with his bullish snaps. But then you see all the social media reactions from our players now - Madders gave back a lot to those doubters, Porro laughed it off the criticism that he couldn't defend, and even Johnson posted an IG story with Son captioned "fucking spursy". So perhaps it turns out everyone in the club was bullish but only Ange could front that all, until we won.
I thought he had no plan B. But last night was the masterclass of parking the bus that worked.
He wanted to change our culture and mentality, and was making the fans very divisive. Yet we all, mostly I guess, celebrated the win so wildly yesterday and leave many of us crying. The rebuild was painful - it could well be more painful in the coming days, but we could well be winning more too.
He fucking won us the European title. He won me back. I'm back to Ange in. Give him the new season.
When has Postecoglou ever accepted responsibility for results? Oh, he might say "this is unacceptable" but that's followed by a line of excuses that never address the problems on the pitch. As for players adoring him, some probably do. But it is rare that a player will publicly say anything negative about a manager until after they leave. Yes, there has been attacking football, but in a system that leaves Spurs exposed defensively. That is not the Spurs way. The last part is true to the extent that any trophy is a major trophy.
What utter nonsense. Truth be told, I couldn’t care less about Champions League football. You think playing in the Group Stage would give any of us more joy than what we experienced last night? It’s a bonus that is only good financially, but that’s about it.
Except they are worse now than they were under Ten Haag.
Probably. But he was speaking like the manager last night, not the accused.