This fanbase is a basket case.
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The trophy is amazing, but what makes you think that’s repeatable given the superior opposition we’ll be facing next season and the evidence gathered over the last 18 months of Ange struggling against more competent teams?!
It's not things I don't understand though is it. It's things you clearly don't understand.
It's idiots saying they want Ange to stay on nothing but vibes.
I am basing my opinion on plenty of evidence. I am able to analyse the performance of Ange through two years of football, and it's obvious he's nowhere near good enough.
On what basis does Ange deserve to stay on as manager? The reality is he should have been sacked many times over last season.
This is our points tally under Ange
3 points gained out of 48 against the top 8 sides.
A total of 4 points gained from a possible 54 in 18 games against the top 9 sides.
And a total of 10 points gained from a possible 60 against the top ten sides, courtesy of 6 earned against Brentford.
Beating the Saints and United twice gave us 12 more, another 4 came against West ham. So we earned 22 of our 38 points from 4 teams.
That is absurdly bad. I am sorry, but anyone who wants a manager with that league record above to get a third season, isn't a Spurs fan, or they have lost the plot.
Here's actual video of Ange saying that league is the best indicator of a teams progress. Now, however. He acts like winning a cup is the most important thing, and the league is irrelevent.
Just another example of the absolute bullshit this guy chats. He's an arrgoant egotisital moron, who will say anything to save face.
View: https://x.com/JonnyH3232/status/1930913811520721051
It is boring when Ange supporters facetiously present top 4 OR trophy as an either-or option. Maresca has just done exactly that in his first season at Chavs with a squad he was completely unfamiliar with. We finished above them last season and they stepped off the spending the season just gone, neither team were in europe last season but both were this season. Maresca was at Leicester, clearly it isn't out of the realms of possibility we could find someone capable of getting us over the line in a cup and actually performing in the league.I was fully entertained the whole game during the Final.
Obviously don't want to see Ange serve that up on the regular but as a means to win a game with all our creative players injured, it was fine with me.
Anwya, this is boring. You prefer top 4 to trophies and you are entitled to that. That couldn't be further from the reason I love sport.
That’s blind faith!It's repeatable because they have done it now. Ange in this team have got over the line and they know how to win together.
This the real fan base:
View: https://x.com/soccerforeverhq/status/1926073949718192351
The grinch's on here and that call Talkshite really are a minority.
We did that for 5-6 years and won.....The guy who posted this video goes to every single spurs game home and away and wants ange gone, for those who don’t believe any match going fans want him out .
How anyone watches vids like this and still eat up everything this man says is beyond me. Some out there genuinely believe he sacked off the league in favour of the Europa in January when you can just look at our team selections to prove that was obviously a lie.
Ange in this video would be ange out and for the exact reasons some of us on here want him gone, consistently finishing high in the league means you are a trending upwards as a team and have more chance consistently fighting for trophies. People seem to think because we didn’t get over the line under Poch that finishing higher in the league doesn’t matter. All you have to do is look at the last 10 years of teams who have won trophies and you will see it’s majority from the top sides at the top end of the table. I’ve not seen any team finish as low as we did and have as poor of a league season be able to just turn it around next year and suddenly be consistent.
Such a disingenuous argument.You are deluded.
Under ENIC we are at best winning the fourth place trophy every year.
Where is the glory glory in that?
I'll take the guy who actually wins us a fucking trophy thanks.
You keep your fourth place medal
BINGO!I was there in that crowd
I want ange gone
I can celebrate a trophy and still think about what’s best for the club next season
It is boring when Ange supporters facetiously present top 4 OR trophy as an either-or option. Maresca has just done exactly that in his first season at Chavs with a squad he was completely unfamiliar with. We finished above them last season and they stepped off the spending the season just gone, neither team were in europe last season but both were this season. Maresca was at Leicester, clearly it isn't out of the realms of possibility we could find someone capable of getting us over the line in a cup and actually performing in the league.
So let’s never try build a team that competes at the top again and just hope we go on cup runs each season because Poch (who had to cope with stadium build and little spend) couldn’t get over the line. Will never understand this logicWe did that for 5-6 years and won.....
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In 5-10 years the Poch era will be forgotten, All of the great football we played when we were "challenging" for those couple of seasons will be forgotten.
Ange's Europa league trophy will be there in black and white and a tangible item in our trophy cabinet.
that's all that matters. You are only trending upwards until you aren't.
That’s blind faith!
The problem with this outlook of some fans is that the more logical fans are made to sound like gooners pointing out that we had a rather easier run to the final and the standard of opposition faced including the worst United team in decades, had a significant influence on that win.
If we had demolished United you may have a point, but it was an incredibly poor offensive display, a scuffed goal albeit a resolute defensive display against a United strike force that couldn’t hit a barn door with a banjo!
In my opinion that 90 minutes of football, combined with the domestic form last season is no basis to assume Postecoglou is the man to take us forward.
Explain why you think its disingenuous.
With zero consideration of circumstances!
I'm just being real given the owners we have.So let’s never try build a team that competes at the top again and just hope we go on cup runs each season because Poch (who had to cope with stadium build and little spend) couldn’t get over the line. Will never understand this logic
He signed off on the squad, he gave the green light to go and buy Gray, he personally wanted Odobert, at what point did his own actions become excuses to defend him with?It shouldn't be either or but comparing us to Chelsea who spend literally billions on their first team squad is mind-boggling.
Ange could have and should have finished higher but if you think this squad was really built to compete across 60+ games when they fleshed out the depth with 3 teenagers and an academy kid, then I don't know what to say to you.
But regardless of that, we did win the EL and people are advocating sacking the manager for a new manager who has never won a sausage but will likely get us closer to top 4.
you guys keep saying this over and over like it's some irrefutable gotcha line and it's simply not true. i've not seen one person say that and the fact that you guys have to twist the truth to make your point speaks volumes.
Same. Can want Ange replaced without constantly shitting on the EL achievement, saying its second rate or that you'd prefer the FA cup or that you're going to have a massive tantrum and leave football altogether if the manager isn't sacked.I was there in that crowd
I want ange gone
I can celebrate a trophy and still think about what’s best for the club next season
I am being honest, I don't know what SC is, was etc...
That, what I've seen, is the cringiest grifter shit since my cousin launched her OnlyFans...I'm mean wait WHAAAA