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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
Yeah 3. And according to most people on this page we should win to aim every cup. Which suggests we should have better backup players than the likes of Fulham. If we don't then we shouldn't expect to win anything anyway.
Half your outfield players being starters vs 2 is a massive difference. It doesn't matter if we have better backups if our players have no rhythm.
 
Ange's loyalty to his players is paramount.

Whatever he says to them in private, you'll never know... but he will not bag them in public.

What sort of side did Fulham send out? Full strength, or rested a few?
Pretty strong. Only two of the starting eleven, including the goalie, were second stringers. Palhinha, Traore, Tete and Ream all played well. Actually, the whole defence and defensive midfield game was good.

Fulham was less convincing in attack. Lots of possession and opportunities, but as usual since Mitro’s departure, they have real trouble finishing. Luckily for Fulham, this time Spurs did the finishing for them.

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Let's break this down.

Only a single team can win a trophy. If we are indeed a top 6 team, that would suggest we are the 6th best team in the country. Why would you expect to a win a competition that there are 5 teams better than you? You can HOPE, but not expect. If you genuinely expect to win a trophy it just suggests you are a bit too impassioned and non objective.

Nope you don't need to break anything down.

I do not care if there's 5 better teams than us in the country on paper, football isn't played on paper if it was Man City wouldn't struggle to beat us at our ground every season. We have been more than capable enough to beat them in the league season in seasan out so why should you not expect to beat them in the cups?

Every other club and fanbase in that top 6 have the aims and expectations of winning something, what makes us so fekin different, we are not Brentford mate there's a reason why we are apart of the established top 6.

Ask yourself if we are more than capable to beat those 5 teams on our day and that will give you the answer as to why we should be going into every season expecting silverware.

If you don't aim high what are you actually aiming for?
 
I said I didn't particularly like him as a person but liked what he was doing with our team. Now I'm not so sure. I like him even less for his disrespect to the cup and fans and even less for trying to justify it. Using a cup to assess players is ok but not 9 of them at once.
Then the Scarlett sub and Maddison at 80 minutes ?

I went along with it and accepted the claims he was brilliant. Yeah right .!

One loss and the kneejerkers have started up.

Hilarious.
 
Nope you don't need to break anything down.

I do not care if there's 5 better teams than us in the country on paper, football isn't played on paper if it was Man City wouldn't struggle to beat us at our ground every season. We have been more than capable enough to beat them in the league season in seasan out so why should you not expect to beat them in the cups?

Every other club and fanbase in that top 6 have the aims and expectations of winning something, what makes us so fekin different, we are not Brentford mate there's a reason why we are apart of the established top 6.

Ask yourself if we are more than capable to beat those 5 teams on our day and that will give you the answer as to why we should be going into every season expecting silverware.

If you don't aim high what are you actually aiming for?
You can aim as high as you wan't. But being realistic will be more accurate. No wonder you are so disappointed if you truly expect those things.

Any team can beat anyone on any given day, that isn't really any argument. Just look at the bookies who deal with maths (for the most part) and then see how realistic it is we win. We are 6th favourites to win the league. 7th Favourites to win the FA Cup. We can hope we win, but what logical, sane human expects to win them.
 
You can aim as high as you wan't. But being realistic will be more accurate. No wonder you are so disappointed if you truly expect those things.

Any team can beat anyone on any given day, that isn't really any argument. Just look at the bookies who deal with maths (for the most part) and then see how realistic it is we win.

I'd be absolutely keen to know what your own expectations are for the club.
 
Such a shame.

The vibe was through the roof.

Then this EMP just flattened it.

Important he goes bonkers against Burnley and we flatten THEM and get that buzz back, immediately.

We'll need it, once this window ends and we only have Johnson (like, huh??) to show, out of the Kane sale (Despicable Bald Cunt trousering the rest).
Come on mate, you're just going to be forever chasing that post 3 games buzz.

It's time to talk to FRANK....

 
I'd be absolutely keen to know what your own expectations are for the club.
Long term growth. We just lost Kane, have a new manager and being realistic, a very poor squad (in terms of depth). If we play positive, fun football and can challenge for the top 4 I'd say that is progress after the last few years and would be something to build on.

That to me, seems reasonable.
 
Watching certain Spurs fans throw their toys out of the cot after one loss (on pens FFS) is doing my fucking head in.

Yes, Ange's team selection was a little bit extravagant but it is his 4th game in charge after a disrupted preseason. He may be regretting it now but Jesus fucking Christ there are some entitled cunts in here. We lost a tight game against a good team away from home with a second string XI.

He's a great manager, but he will make decisions that we don't like. And guess what, he will get it wrong occasionally. But at least he is thinking long term, unlike the last two oxygen thieves we had running the show.

Get on board or fuck off. Seriously.
 
Fucking hell guys, it’s 2 wins and 2 draws and 3 of 4 were away.

Away to Fulham on pens isn’t exactly losing to dynamo 3-0 to Zagreb or against colchester.

Ange isn’t going to win every game… this year is about getting the team to play at a higher level. And playing at a high level means the entire squad can play at that level.

Obviously the squad still has a lot of weak spots, but we seem to actually have a plan on how to build a good team, so let’s not freak out because ange is unbeaten after 4 matches.
 
It's a tinpot cup and anyone that says otherwise lacks persepective.

It's annoying that we lost on a coin-flip away to a strong mid-table side with our 'B-team', but that's about our 'B-team's' level -- sub-mid-table.
 
I'd be absolutely keen to know what your own expectations are for the club.

What are your fucking expectations?

We finished 8th last year, just lost arguably our greatest every player, have a new manager trying to implement a completely new style of football after 4 years of utter shambles. It's his 4th proper game in charge after a disrupted preseason and he still has deadwood all through his squad that Levy is yet to clear out.

Exactly what are you expecting?
 
What are your fucking expectations?

We finished 8th last year, just lost arguable our greatest every player, have a new manager trying to implement a completely new style of football after 4 years of utter shambles. It's his 4th proper game in charge after a disrupted pre-season.

Exactly what are you expecting?

Read the conversation and stop swearing you naughty little man
 
I said I didn't particularly like him as a person but liked what he was doing with our team. Now I'm not so sure. I like him even less for his disrespect to the cup and fans and even less for trying to justify it. Using a cup to assess players is ok but not 9 of them at once.
Then the Scarlett sub and Maddison at 80 minutes ?

I went along with it and accepted the claims he was brilliant. Yeah right .!
This is like Woolwich fan tv shit right here.
 
Emerson is almost an outfield starter. Same with Skipp. Davinson played 80 minutes in the opening fixture. These aren't exactly "fringe" players if you look at it like this.
Emerson started one match and was dropped, same for Skipp, who is miles off our starting midfield quality. Davinson Sanchez is literally transfer listed.
 
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