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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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coaches who can't make arrangement for set pieces after conceding 14 goals
players who can't shoot on target even inside the box
Gaffer who won't make adjustment in tactics after nearly a season in charge
but we do have FBs who play as striker or looking like one
which is why he should be chopped now. why kill another season? pub side manager that looks like hes lost the dressing room now.
i got duped early too, i think its more in hope, ill hope the next manager is the one too! but looking back now look how fucking dumb the whole things been! hes never managed a top side in his life and gets this job. hes not got a clue how to fix things, if he did we would of seen a different system. hes still banging his head against a wall wondering how his counter attacking wingers arent producing against brick walls!!! he thinks the midfield is the problem HAHAHHAHAHA.
if the big players we have got have lost faith in him its dangerous keeping him here because they will turn sour and want out the club. romero, VDV, maddison, porro, udogie, vic, sarr. these are good players that are struggling due to this idiot persisting with a system that doesnt fit any front 3 he can put out.
hes managed one club in europe and thats celtic! LOL. what the fuck was we thinking!
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We’ve hired a small time manager with a history coaching against limited athletes and managers in a crap league and it shows. He never had to cut his teeth on the elite of the elite and this is our fundamental problem.
He has some good ideas but as far as we can tell, his general solution is to commit more and more men forward in increasingly compromising and kamikaze fashion just to cross it across the 6 yard box for tap ins with sheer overload and speed. That’s always worked for him, mitigate the lack of technical talent by committing more men, simple enough, and sod the defense, the other teams aren’t good enough to punish us.
And I’ve seen the J League and the SPL and he’s right, they aren’t good enough. Chalobah and Badiashile are 6’4”, strong, pacey athletes who cover a lot of ground as well as aerially. Caicedo is a monstrous player who is building a nice little partnership with the £50m Cucurella inverting. Mudryk and Nico Jackson who cost around £140m combined are fast and physical release valves, and Palmer and Gallagher, England players, they know how to be everywhere at once.
And they punish you for committing men forward, and they bully you in the air, and they win. The SPL/A-League formula does work, undeniably - but only against limited athletes and managers. It even worked here for a bit, it was basically what happened the first 10 games as Van de Ven was on a complete heater defensively and teams didn’t quite know how to play us yet. But then… the tide turned. And it suddenly changed entirely, specifically after Molineux. And either Ange needs to evolve his tactics and find the players to mitigate the reaction to his plan. Or we need to evolve beyond angeball.
My only hope is that this is his humbling, and that he is the man to figure this out before the results become completely untenable. I do know this, if these results continue, he won’t have much longer before Levy decides to figure it out for him.
He has some good ideas but as far as we can tell, his general solution is to commit more and more men forward in increasingly compromising and kamikaze fashion just to cross it across the 6 yard box for tap ins with sheer overload and speed. That’s always worked for him, mitigate the lack of technical talent by committing more men, simple enough, and sod the defense, the other teams aren’t good enough to punish us.
And I’ve seen the J League and the SPL and he’s right, they aren’t good enough. Chalobah and Badiashile are 6’4”, strong, pacey athletes who cover a lot of ground as well as aerially. Caicedo is a monstrous player who is building a nice little partnership with the £50m Cucurella inverting. Mudryk and Nico Jackson who cost around £140m combined are fast and physical release valves, and Palmer and Gallagher, England players, they know how to be everywhere at once.
And they punish you for committing men forward, and they bully you in the air, and they win. The SPL/A-League formula does work, undeniably - but only against limited athletes and managers. It even worked here for a bit, it was basically what happened the first 10 games as Van de Ven was on a complete heater defensively and teams didn’t quite know how to play us yet. But then… the tide turned. And it suddenly changed entirely, specifically after Molineux. And either Ange needs to evolve his tactics and find the players to mitigate the reaction to his plan. Or we need to evolve beyond angeball.
My only hope is that this is his humbling, and that he is the man to figure this out before the results become completely untenable. I do know this, if these results continue, he won’t have much longer before Levy decides to figure it out for him.
If he doesn't adopt a change to his approach, he wont last long term. Still find it maddening he dismissed set pieces and acts like its beneath him to take them seriously, despite the team clearly having a softness when it becomes to defending the deadball.
I have also said I think he plays a highline for highline sake, how much tactical acumen is in the idea of playing a highline, or is it rooted in a belief this is how football is played.
He good grace period is over, and there are cracks showing in his aura. I really hope he ditched his aussie mates and gets some good coaches around him. Because he needs to realise he needs help. Other managers have assistants they ca defer too. What does Mile Jedinak offer? Would Jedinak get employment elsewhere?
I have also said I think he plays a highline for highline sake, how much tactical acumen is in the idea of playing a highline, or is it rooted in a belief this is how football is played.
He good grace period is over, and there are cracks showing in his aura. I really hope he ditched his aussie mates and gets some good coaches around him. Because he needs to realise he needs help. Other managers have assistants they ca defer too. What does Mile Jedinak offer? Would Jedinak get employment elsewhere?
agree except Celtic score some absolute belters from all over outside the penalty box. Not all are tap ins.
Different version of ange ball.
he seems to have a high esteem of his 'High-Liness'. He seems to believe it.
But time will tell if he sticks to it no matter what the results are. Lets watch.
In my mind a manager should adjust his line depending on the characteristics of the team we are facing.
If Real Madrid are willing to sit deep to defend against Munich and City, I dont see why we should be so proud we cant do it against top teams.
If Real Madrid are willing to sit deep to defend against Munich and City, I dont see why we should be so proud we cant do it against top teams.
The thing that worries me about Ange is he has a pretty good squad available. Buying players to suit his system concerns me. What if his system is no good (looks that way) and we sell off good players who under a sensible manager could do something for the team.
Levy needs to make a quick decision on Ange before he does irreversible damage to our squad and actually ends up taking us backwards. Ange has got to go.
Levy needs to make a quick decision on Ange before he does irreversible damage to our squad and actually ends up taking us backwards. Ange has got to go.
And the alternative with his own rebuilt budget is...?
Furball man
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Celtic had a far more balanced squad with the right profile of players to allow for a variety of different solutions.
We are a squad full of 8's and false 9's (and a few false defenders too)...
Seriously, ETH and Poch this season have been worse and the whole world decides to be worried about Ange. Fuck the pundits, they can say all they like about Ange being moody, angry or pissed during the presser I don't care. Poch has been a joke countless times in his presser. ETH had been silly so many times with his selection. So yeah now Ange is the one in deep shit. For fuck fucking cunt sake.
Many likes to brand Ange as naive. More like the fan base is no different. Less than a season and we are seeing a vocal few asking for his head. How they rather spend the whole summer looking for a new manager instead of continuing building a foundation (it helps even for the next manager if the unfortunate happens down the road) I really don't know. Even United and chelscum fans can be more patient. I hate our fans sometimes. We are why we are now. Always complaining about us being laughed at, because we are truly always laughing at ourselves. So easily riled up off field, we are no different from Madders on field. We just keep proving opposition players right.
Many likes to brand Ange as naive. More like the fan base is no different. Less than a season and we are seeing a vocal few asking for his head. How they rather spend the whole summer looking for a new manager instead of continuing building a foundation (it helps even for the next manager if the unfortunate happens down the road) I really don't know. Even United and chelscum fans can be more patient. I hate our fans sometimes. We are why we are now. Always complaining about us being laughed at, because we are truly always laughing at ourselves. So easily riled up off field, we are no different from Madders on field. We just keep proving opposition players right.
Disagree. It's both big and clever and despite my hideous disfigurations I always manage to secure the best prostitutes.
Think about it.
We are seemingly back to our annual dilemma do we back a manager that is most likely going to be sacked shortly after the new season has started .
Odd testimony to say you don't give a fuck and then give give your version of the truth. Of course you care.
Ange in. But wake the fuck up.
So what you are saying is that Ange is at that level but will be hamstrung but the board?
That's a reach.
It's obvious the players are still trying to do what they were doing in the beginning of the season but they are now too scared to do that because they will lead to mistakes and being sweared at again by the crowd and fans.
It's insane there are posters thinking things are more likely to fail by continuing with Ange who has less than a season here than getting a new manager for next season like as if they have no memories for last 5 years.
It's insane there are posters thinking the home crowd in the next home game should be chanting Ange out when it's exactly such toxicity that are driving fear into players from performing what they wanted to for the manager.
No idea why our fans are seemingly so easily affected by how and what others are seeing us. It's this fucking reason why the narratives are always written to ridicule us, from the media to the officiating, all these fucking years. If we don't grow the club wouldn't grow. Ange wants to rid off such mentality and yet fans are the first to turn against it when the going gets tough.
If you were enjoying the first 10 games of the season and were singing Ange's song in every game, then how about showing some loyalty and back him for the last 4 games and sing the same fucking song as well. It will permeate to boost the confidence of the players, for them to know their gaffer got the backing, instead of spreading the hate for Ange every where else and incept the idea to the players his time is up.
It's insane there are posters thinking things are more likely to fail by continuing with Ange who has less than a season here than getting a new manager for next season like as if they have no memories for last 5 years.
It's insane there are posters thinking the home crowd in the next home game should be chanting Ange out when it's exactly such toxicity that are driving fear into players from performing what they wanted to for the manager.
No idea why our fans are seemingly so easily affected by how and what others are seeing us. It's this fucking reason why the narratives are always written to ridicule us, from the media to the officiating, all these fucking years. If we don't grow the club wouldn't grow. Ange wants to rid off such mentality and yet fans are the first to turn against it when the going gets tough.
If you were enjoying the first 10 games of the season and were singing Ange's song in every game, then how about showing some loyalty and back him for the last 4 games and sing the same fucking song as well. It will permeate to boost the confidence of the players, for them to know their gaffer got the backing, instead of spreading the hate for Ange every where else and incept the idea to the players his time is up.