If we're not top we're nowhere. Ange out.
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True. We can always drop lower.The season is not over yet - no matter how many times you repeat where we are right now. 29 games to go.
context. we lose when we play anyone decent, or even weaker sides who actually want it. the europa games have been against championship level opposition, city didnt even want to win last night ffs. they were laughing before the final whistle. that cup is nothing but a hindrance to them this year. if city wanted to win that cup they would of beat us last night.You will never please everyone. This time last year we were top of the league, not in Europe and out of the cup. This year we sit in 8th, but have won all 3 European games and have just knocked City out of the cup.
The negative nancies will focus on us being in 8th and say they see no progress. The positive people will look at the fact that we have a big chance in 2 competitions now. I just checked Paddy Power and I see we are 7/2 to win the Europa League and 5/1 to win the EFL cup so we have a genuine chance of winning silverware this year. Maybe we shouldn't let the league position bother us for now?
We are not way off it. We played United off the park and should have got results against Newcastle and Woolwich. We didn't exactly lose those games 3-0 and look hopeless. Lets have some perspective here. We can compete with all these teamsWe are fucking way off it. We don’t win big games against direct competitors. We haven’t even had a hard run of games or dealt much with injuries yet.
We are in the apex of an Ange season, where most players are fit and not tiring due to his style. And we are already a bit rubbish.
Let’s see how bad it gets when we are limping in to the final 1/3 of the season with injuries and multiple comps. We looked shattered with a game a week last season.
Still early in the season though to be making these statements. Lets see how we fair against Villa this week because I don't think they are any better than us. I'd be shocked if they beat us easy anyway. We'll competecontext. we lose when we play anyone decent, or even weaker sides who actually want it. the europa games have been against championship level opposition, city didnt even want to win last night ffs. they were laughing before the final whistle. that cup is nothing but a hindrance to them this year. if city wanted to win that cup they would of beat us last night.
So here we are. Coming up to the 1/4 mark. I think a lot of people got PTSD from last season tbh. Last season after matchday 10 if you had told anyone we’d get less than 70 points and not finish top 4 you’d get abused.
A very different feel to this season.
What position do you think we will finish or how many points do you think we get?
Are you feeling confident of a top 5 finish? More points than last year?
yep, time will tell. but going off what weve seen over the last year i dont know how anyone who watches us every game can be optimistic.Still early in the season though to be making these statements. Lets see how we fair against Villa this week because I don't think they are any better than us. I'd be shocked if they beat us easy anyway. We'll compete
I agree there. Consistency is the biggest problem we have! We don't know what to expect from usyep, time will tell. but going off what weve seen over the last year i dont know how anyone who watches us every game can be optimistic.
We are fucking way off it. We don’t win big games against direct competitors. We haven’t even had a hard run of games or dealt much with injuries yet.
We are in the apex of an Ange season, where most players are fit and not tiring due to his style. And we are already a bit rubbish.
Let’s see how bad it gets when we are limping in to the final 1/3 of the season with injuries and multiple comps. We looked shattered with a game a week last season.
We did 4 at the start of last season, Man U to Sheff Utd.I think I can see where the faith being exhibited by the devotees falls down. What is the longest EPL run of wins under Postecoglou? If we could put together even four Epl wins in the post Chelsea period I think it would go a long way for me to prove direction of travel.
The guy you are arguing with isn’t going to listen to any sort of reason. Most universally disliked poster on the board. Save your time.I'm amazed how league position is even relevant after 9 games. such a small sample size. I never really start looking at the league position until close to Christmas. 4 defeats in 9 is poor but we have won 5/5 in the cup competitions so its not been a complete disaster. I think people need to relax a bit and appreciate its still October
Fair mate. I'm relatively new so I'm biting every bait! I was hoping SpursRomania set the standard as the most negative "Tottenham Fan" on the forumThe guy you are arguing with isn’t going to listen to any sort of reason. Most universally disliked poster on the board. Save your time.
Ironic enough writing all that a day after we beat Man CityIf you look at the top 6 teams (from last year, apart from us), Ange has a total of 3 wins from 14 tries, I believe?
0 this season
Villa in March
Toon last December
Liverpool at the start of the season
You have to beat the top teams at least sometimes to be considered one of them and we're not doing that. Against the commonly regarded "top 6" he's only done it once at the beginning when we were flying.
You can point to what might have been in any given match and say we looked pretty good losing in one game or another, but over the long term you are what your record says you are
No it isn’t.
We are not way off it. We played United off the park and should have got results against Newcastle and Woolwich. We didn't exactly lose those games 3-0 and look hopeless. Lets have some perspective here. We can compete with all these teams