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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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Not a bad presser. If he’s under pressure he isn’t showing it and not one journo questioned him on his future. Where are all the pitchforks?
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Well we can agree to disagree on that. Regardless, why does whether he walked or not ACTUALLY matter? Conte as good as walked (yes i know he was technically sacked but he begged for his sacking) and that left us in a hole, in fact that period under Stellini/Mason felt the most toxic the club had felt in years. A coach walking isn't going to get us better firstly, it's not going to get Levy to sell. In fact, those bastions of great character Jose and Conte couldn't do that, so why are we yearning for a coach to posses the honour of two guys who already actively hurt the club. Nobody, no matter how persuasive or persistent they are, is going to change the ways of this club, so how can it possibly be Ange's fault that we don't change?
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He was asked yesterday if he wished he had a bigger squad.
In terms of numbers he said no, in terms of quality to contribute at the top of competitions, he said we didn’t have the capacity to do so and then he stopped himself. Then he said we are only three windows into changing a squad and playing style etc.
Diplomatic.
Facing the same problem as every manager.
In terms of numbers he said no, in terms of quality to contribute at the top of competitions, he said we didn’t have the capacity to do so and then he stopped himself. Then he said we are only three windows into changing a squad and playing style etc.
Diplomatic.
Facing the same problem as every manager.
We have let him down as with every manager . Summer transfer window , one first team player who was 12 months overdue after the Kane sale .
So we sold one of our greatest ever players , didn’t even replace him . Sonny is not the player he was when he and Kane were together .
I like Solanke he is a grafter and adds value in Ange’s system , but anyone who thinks this squad is even close to what Conte had are not being realistic . Sonny as is does not get in Poch , Jose, Conte team
Change Ange nothing changes imho, the squad is bang average and that bang average squad has been decimated by injuries
So we sold one of our greatest ever players , didn’t even replace him . Sonny is not the player he was when he and Kane were together .
I like Solanke he is a grafter and adds value in Ange’s system , but anyone who thinks this squad is even close to what Conte had are not being realistic . Sonny as is does not get in Poch , Jose, Conte team
Change Ange nothing changes imho, the squad is bang average and that bang average squad has been decimated by injuries
The squad is better now.
Kone would not have broken the bank?
Yep,
I wonder where Conte and Mou would have taken us without a 20 plus goal Kane and prime Son. 2 seasons running we have suffered massive injury tolls, with a backup of teenagers and second string players. Every team has to manage injuries, I get that.
We do not have the depth to compete at the highest level. Our table position is in sync with our wages principles.
I hope Ange is given time to manage a squad that fits his belief system. I , for one, don't think a change of manager will accomplish anything other than a new name. Let's see where this project takes us.
Give the guy the whole season is my view.
We have loaned out everyone instead of may be integrating some into first team. Now we have some I know kids on the bench making up the numbers. I fail to see how Alfie couldn’t have helped with the numbers.
Conte a Jose were unhappy anyway , can you imagine them wanting to be lumbered with a drastic salary reduction approach to transfers . That is the reality of our joke of a rebuild, amazed people can’t see it.
Ange has been given a shit sandwich and is expected to make it taste like a Michelin star chef prepared it
I noted that too. You could sense he wanted to say more.
Also interesting discussing the amount of youngsters we have.
Joe Hart reflects on his time at Tottenham. Go to 12 minutes in.
“ it’s a great club but doesn’t feel like everyone is pulling in the same direction. “
“ they need to give Ange time “
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“ it’s a great club but doesn’t feel like everyone is pulling in the same direction. “
“ they need to give Ange time “
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he isnt under pressure imo. I believe Levy is invested in this new set up, short term pain for long term gain and all at a cheaper price as it's all about creating a young squad as he says in embargo section
I've been saying it consistently - we fucked up the summer window. Way too little was done.
But Kane drum get's banged bit too much. Ofc he is a loss. He is absolutely one of the best strikers in the whole world. Has been for years and we were lucky to have such an outstanding player leading the line for us.
But at the same time these kind of oversimplified takes totally disregard the fact that when Mou left we had following defenders -
Alderweireld (though not peak Toby anymore - on his last legs on EPL level)
Dier
Sanchez
Rodon
Tanganga
I would literally argue that today our 3rd pick of CB in Radu is better than anyone we had at that point in time.
For fullbacks we had -
Regulion (still here, can't get a callup even in massive injury crises) and Davies (same then and now)
Doherty (never really did job for us) and Aurier (total and absolute nutcase) + Rose that was relegated to U21 by then.
Clearly Udogie and Porro can have their flaws but they are far superior what we had then.
So literally - when everyone are fit, I'd say we currently have 3 better CBs than best CB then.
And 2 better fullbacks than we had back then.
Not to mention that in midfield we did had PEH, but on top of that? Winks, Sissoko, Lo Celso, Ndombele.
Fucksake - now we have Bissouma, Bentancur and Sarr. All better than best midfielder back then.
So while we have lost Kane, overall quality level in the team right now is clearly superior what Mou had to use.
Yet to be seen if Radu is better than Sanchez.
I understand that a lot of people see the first ten games he had as a ‘new manager bounce’ and that it hid what our more consistent performance levels are, but you can’t just remove them from the equation.
I’m not an Ange fan, but those games took place and have to be included in any stats people drum up. Let’s be fair.
100% fair to say he started well.
To the untrained eye he started very very well.
But those who knew. Knew.
The end of that season was not going to look like the start.
I tend to agree, the squad is nowhere near as good or as deep as some we've had in the past.
For me Vicario is a number 2, we need a dominant keeper between the sticks. Foster played well the other day but he wouldn't even be the number 3 at the top clubs. The defence is solid but we need a better left back option than Udogie and if he isn't going to play Spence or Gray then we need a back up RB. The midfield... on paper they should be good enough... Biss, Bentancur, Sarr, Madders, Kulu, Bergvall... Gallagher would have made a difference by hey ho... we have scored goals but I worry about the front players... jury still out on Solanke but I think he will be ok, Richi is never fit and when he is he's ineffective, Son has past his best and if he is starting next season we are really in the shite, Werner is Werner and Johnson is hopefully going to improve and add dangerous to his goal scoring... so
Ok, even with your removal of the last 10 games, for me, that is still filthy form that would be nowhere near top 4
Haha, nice joke
Sanchez was good for first season, but after that he was most tragic shit I've seen.
Total pussy that was easily pushed to ground by a midget that is Gundogan.
Why do people think we should get top 4 . Others outspend us massively on transfers , even more so on salaries . We will have the occasional positive blip , when generational talents like Kane , Bale , Modric come along . We may occasionally fluke a manager who out performs Levynomics , but it will be rare . Facts are facts the clubs with the biggest budgets will be far more consistently in the top 4 . Five clubs do that United being the current under performer . If Newcastle find wriggle room at some point it will be six . Now add in an injury crisis and a very long suspension and Ange is doing fine in my book . Arteta who I loathe had Woolwich massively underperforming, not only did they stick with him they mega backed him . Cancelling contracts of very highly paid players to change the dynamic , we eventually did it with NDombele when we could not shift him and had no choice . They then massively backed him with the finished article on big wages , not teenage punts . That is what it took to turn Woolwich around , ( i say through gritted teeth ),we don’t have the ambition to compete .