Management Ange Postecoglou

[erlee]

Just 1 tiny example: if Spurs have a defensive problem with set plays & after 2 seasons - Ange still doesn't believe its a legit problem AND haven't dealt with it - indicative there is something massively wrong with the guy. He is losing matches just from 1 area alone.
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that said - i think he is hampered by the lack of capable assistants.
he said he doesn't do tactics that much - he said he doesn't run training or set play tactics that much either,
wtf does he actually do? interviews?
he doesn't want to work with older guys which he doesnt know. He wants full control with younger lads - like those couple of failed Hibernian coaches.

 

[Crowny]

Me not calling for his head is apathy? Don't think I don't detect the sarcasm in the "true supporter" bit either. I've posted my feelings on how ENIC have managed us over the years. This is about AP though, so why keep banging on about Levy, unless you're trying to dig out an argument?

I'm not interested.

Never said I don't have a view on him, I've shared it often enough and I don't care to repeat myself.

No he didn't. That was a strategic move to get Lammy to get his arse in gear.

OK, I'm done with this now. If you want a tear up over Levy and ENIC, get yourself over to that thread. Don't expect me to be there though.

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No the true supporter wasn’t sarcastic actually. I can tell you are.
If Levy ends up sacking the 13th manager under his tenure and the ground starts singing “We want Levy out” - I’ll be joining in vociferously - how else do you get through to the man that we‘ve had enough of his ineptitude on the footballing side?
He just doesn’t want to leave us alone - even if he sells he wants to stay on.

And I’m not frequently on this site so I don’t know your views on Levy but I’ll take a look on the other thread.

I work in football and I understood he would have moved us to Stratford if the deal was right. But yes he was putting pressure on Lammy as well.

 

[Who]

The other thing I hate about Ange is he prefers Pepsi to Coca Cola.

Pretty sure he murders hamsters too...

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Nice one . Open goal and Celtic liked the soundbites too... but then it turned. Play decent teams with the 'philosophy' and it appears it doesn't seem to work for example in European competition from what I've noticed.

 

[Notabadsquad]

2 games to go for Postecoglou.

Get beaten heavily tomorrow and then lose to Rangees, both of which are more likely than not, then only Levy's leniency saves him.

The issue for ne is whether there is confidence that even with necessary reinforcements that Postecoglou has what it takes?

Frank for me, or Potter.

 

[5purs]

Did you expect to win the league this season?
Did you except us to finish in the top 4 this season?
Did you expect us to win a trophy this season?

Do we settle? I mean;
Would we have replaced Lloris?
Would we spend £100m on one player?

Does it matter who the manager is?
Does it matter who the players are?


Regardless of that, show some decorum when talking about your own club, eh?

 

[Coys1955]

2 games to go for Postecoglou.

Get beaten heavily tomorrow and then lose to Rangees, both of which are more likely than not, then only Levy's leniency saves him.

The issue for ne is whether there is confidence that even with necessary reinforcements that Postecoglou has what it takes?

Frank for me, or Potter.

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No more Chelsea rejects thanks. The only other no-no for me is Southgate (shudder).

Apart from those two I don't really care - spin the wheel and see what happens (again). Sooner or later (probably much later) we may just get lucky.

Levy may as well do that because the searching for months interviewing every man and his dog while Mason and his mates torture us before picking Nuno or Ange approach doesn't seem to work either. Just pick someone and get going.

 

[Incomplete_usernam]

I dont think he is a foolish or stupid person do you?

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Yes, yes I do.

Have you not watched his press conferences? Seen his interviews? Would you consider him to be witty and intellectual man? I mean how low is the bar if that is the case?

 

[Who]

Did you expect to win the league this season?
Did you except us to finish in the top 4 this season?
Did you expect us to win a trophy this season?

Do we settle? I mean;
Would we have replaced Lloris?
Would we spend £100m on one player?

Does it matter who the manager is?
Does it matter who the players are?


Regardless of that, show some decorum when talking about your own club, eh?

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yeah ok but THFC did spend money in the transfer market. Alot of fans wanted to run PEH out and maybe he wasn't used to playing this way either etc. The previous 'set piece' coach was shown the door and the 'delegate down' was an early sign in early press conferences. Experienced players and staff were shown the door (Jermain Defoe?) and if that's how it is then I suppose you get what you asked for..including transfer money though that is delegated elsewhere too maybe? No flies on me mate.

 

[Maureen]

Sorry to dissapoint you but Ange isnt getting to May. The team is being booed off most weeks, they've started on Levy and we're 10th with Chelsea and Liverpool 2 of our next 3 league games. We've already hit the untenable phase.

No idea what Levy will do, quite probably cheap out again, but he acts when things get uncomfortable. Always has.

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Is it just levy though or his stooge Aussie Munn, Ange’s mate? I think Munn should go as well as he has overseen the footballing side which includes Lange and the hiring of coaches. They all need to go. I think Ange sees out season, we line up replacement in the mean time give the youngsters game time. Ange only stays 2/3 years anywhere anyway. Ofc if a top quality replacement is available now then go for it.

 

[HampshireSpur]

Him being high as fuck on his own farts is precisely the reason people are reacting is such an emotive way towards him, a more humble man may have had a little more empathy tossed his way.

But alas…

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The decision to go over to the baying mob was a farce and is absolutely the beginning of the end for Ange; a serious person simply does not do that, there is nothing to be gained from that situation.

As for the abuse, yeah, not pleasant and I wouldn't do it myself, but as I wrote yesterday, the guy is bullish, arrogant and aggressive, there's a brooding pallor that hangs over his pressers/interviews etc. And, if you're going to have a go at people, puff out your chest, square up, etc., you do in my opinion forfeit the right to just have a 'polite' conversation. I made a catty remark about his size yesterday which upset another poster but I wouldn't have done it if not for his own belligerence/aggression/taking on the fans which have made me lose a bit of faith in him as a bloke.

The messaging with this guy is just all wrong.

 

[Who]

Central Coast Mariners.. Hibernian.. different leagues, worlds apart..

 

[Incomplete_usernam]

I don't understand attacking his character or calling him a cunt. Call him an idiot if you want I suppose, but he really isn't one. Call him a manager out of his depth at this level, I'll agree. But abusing the manager in a foul way doesn't help us today or when we need to attract the next, and it ought to be beneath a club of high standing.

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What makes you believe that?

Is it because he has made it to the upper echelons of football and therefore that invalidates the reasoning behind him being an idiot?

If that’s the case, I have news for you, there are PLENTY of successful idiots.

 

[HampshireSpur]

When you start using things like fat it becomes much more personal and vindictive, so yes, will cut deeper. In the same way if you call a black person a black cunt it's much worse than just calling a cunt that happens to be black. If you have no idea what i'm talking about then you've never been bullied.

The term cunt on here is largely desensitised here anyway. I'm not a pearl clutching puritan by any means. I'm sure i've called all sorts of people like refs and gooners, cunts. They might end up seeing it, however it's unlikely. However this is a man who is part of our club and trying - despite what some people think - to bring us sucess with the style of football that all us wanted. It's not just hyperbole on a forum, people are now screaming it to his face from the stands.

Even if you're so emotionally broken you can't see why screaming at someone trying to their job that they're a fat cunt is wrong, then at least try and understand that abusing him, or any of our players, isn't going to improve the results.

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The personal abuse is out of order but there's no equivalence between calling someone overweight and racism.

 

[Furball man]

I’m not really Ange out as I’m fed up of us constantly firing managers & never correcting the main problem at the club but I’ve just been watching Alister Gold and he got a quote from Ange saying “ they got younger players in as you can not replace experience with experience because that is not a rebuild “

What the fuck is he on about ? This constant business flannel of rebuild / transition , it’s a poor excuse . How about improving the bloody squad from the previous season ? That’s just common sense

 

[OziBeerMan]

View: https://youtu.be/TiptyZ-ylro?si=Bzvxk_E2jYp5l00L

 

[Who]

The decision to go over to the baying mob was a farce and is absolutely the beginning of the end for Ange; a serious person simply does not do that, there is nothing to be gained from that situation.

As for the abuse, yeah, not pleasant and I wouldn't do it myself, but as I wrote yesterday, the guy is bullish, arrogant and aggressive, there's a brooding pallor that hangs over his pressers/interviews etc. And, if you're going to have a go at people, puff out your chest, square up, etc., you do in my opinion forfeit the right to just have a 'polite' conversation. I made a catty remark about his size yesterday which upset another poster but I wouldn't have done it if not for his own belligerence/aggression/taking on the fans which have made me lose a bit of faith in him as a bloke.

The messaging with this guy is just all wrong.

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"“I always said that it was an honour to serve Tottenham Hotspur and I feel the same every time I walk back into the stadium.”

 

[daveyboy88]

2 games to go for Postecoglou.

Get beaten heavily tomorrow and then lose to Rangees, both of which are more likely than not, then only Levy's leniency saves him.

The issue for ne is whether there is confidence that even with necessary reinforcements that Postecoglou has what it takes?

Frank for me, or Potter.

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dont know why rangers is relevant. he should be gone already, but losing tomorrow should be his head on the chopping block. hes wayyyy out of his depth and i think the players are fully aware of him being a charlatan, shouldnt be anywhere near this level of football.

 

[Who]

I’m not really Ange out as I’m fed up of us constantly firing managers & never correcting the main problem at the club but I’ve just been watching Alister Gold and he got a quote from Ange saying “ they got younger players in as you can not replace experience with experience because that is not a rebuild “

What the fuck is he on about ? This constant business flannel of rebuild / transition , it’s a poor excuse . How about improving the bloody squad from the previous season ? That’s just common sense

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[White Hart]

To all the people who are fine with abusing Ange, were you also fine with abusing Brennan, to the point he had to disable social media and his personality in videos visibly changed?

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Just keyboard bullies and cowards

 

[Aphex]

The Ange-Outers are very vocal here after a loss and are perhaps over-represented in "the room". After a win it's different.

If you look at the corresponding thread on another Spurs message board you'll get a more positive vibe. That's probably skewed by censorship: too much vitriol gets you perma-banned over there apparently. But then the banned come to TFC which means they are always going to be over-represented here.

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That's very true. The admin over there acts like he's Kim Jung-Un , and is completely clueless about football, always happy claps about the manager, and so if there are any dissenting voices, anyone who prefers to call a spade a spade, is perma banned.

I know people have been banned from there despite donating a fair bit of money to the site, and he bans without hesitation. He's a nasty piece of work.

I was just having a look on there this morning and the place is full of happy clappers. You can see people are scared to come out publicly and go against Ange. It's happening a bit more now, but even months ago when it was clear to some of us the direction of travel under Ange, there was hardly a peep from anyone on there, because they are all scared to be seen as negative.

Anyway just wanted to say this place is a breath of fresh air. Yes sometimes emotions spill over, but we are all Spurs fans and some of us having different views, we should be able to express those views without fear or favour.

And don't get me started on COYS, that place is run by the gestapo. I was actually banned years ago because I posted some breaking news that was reported on Sky Sports in a match thread. I said it was reported that Dele Alli is injured and won't make the match, apparently its against the rules to break news which isn't from an official source. SSN isn't a good enough source apparently. Perma banned. Ridiculous.