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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
It’s genuinely fascinating how some supporters seem ready to proclaim the apocalypse at our club should Ange be shown the door, as if he’s the final roll of the managerial dice and no one else in world football could possibly be entrusted with rebuilding this team. It’s the footballing equivalent of declaring the sun will never rise again should he depart—a dramatic overestimation, to say the least.

The devotion is, quite frankly, cult-like. And no, that’s not hyperbole anymore; it’s a serious observation now, I have never seen a manager at this club be so highly rated for doing so little; his tenure has become something akin to scripture—sacred, immune to critique, and alarmingly detached from the hard evidence staring us in the face, this idea that he will improve and this team will improve under him is entirely divorced from observable reality at this point, when will the penny drop for some of you?

WHEN his time with us inevitably ends (and it will), he might genuinely consider founding a religion lol, I am being sincere here as well.

The man clearly has a gift for rallying unwavering discipleship, even when the path he’s leading them down seems destined to dead-end in mediocrity and broken promises.

Perhaps it’s the allure of a charismatic grifter offering comforting fictions—a footballing pied piper for those in need of a figure to follow and adore, (like a father figure to some I imagine) regardless of whether his "hymns" lead to triumph or torment.

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The idea that Ange is "a decent bloke" is pure, unfiltered copium. Let’s call it what it is: a fallacy. Time and again, his so-called geniality has been overshadowed by his passive-aggressive tendencies, thinly veiled insecurity, and a stubborn ego that refuses to acknowledge fault or adapt. The mask has slipped too many times to buy into the “nice guy” myth any longer.

Take today as yet another prime example. He deflected blame onto injuries yet again to explain away the shortcomings of his system and in-game management. We were 2-0 up, a more pragmatic, tactically astute manager—one with less hubris—would have adjusted, closed the game out or at least changed the strategy, and taken all 3 points or at the very least, a point. Instead, we got yet another demonstration of his one-dimensional, tragically predictable “Ange Ball,” a philosophy seemingly allergic to evolution or nuance; but you know it's "entertaining" right? LOL, what is entertaining about it exactly? Please tell me...

Oh, and about those injuries he’s crying about? Let’s not forget that he rushed players like Romero and Van de Ven back into action prematurely, likely exacerbating their conditions and sidelining them for even longer just to try and save his own bacon (shock) great news for a club in multiple comps isn't it?

And as for the replacement for Romero? We paid a hefty sum for Drags services, but suddenly, he’s not good enough Ange? It's all on Romero? Have we not lost multiple winnable games this season with both Romero and VDV fit? Curious logic, isn’t it people?

Perhaps the real injury we’re dealing with is Ange’s fragile ego—it’s proving far more detrimental to the team than anything else at this club currently, the only one who supersedes him in the failure olympics is Levy but even he can't be blamed for the awful results we have seen this season.

Shocking state of affairs.
Great post. I really dont think once the dust has settled that Tottenham history will look back on his tenure kindly. Think he'll be lumped in with Gross and Ramos.
 
The moment Ange said “it’s who we are” after we lost 4-1 against Chelsea with the suicidal high line with nine men I knew he wasn’t a serious person.

Question is who comes next? I fear whoever it is is doomed by Levy’s constraints.
Maybe like others have said just go and get Edin Terzic.

He is available right now. Has genuine coaching pedigree, been a technical director, and manager already, at a relatively young age and only at the highest level.

I wasn't so sure because of his bust up with Hummels but after looking into it more. I don't give a shit he's an excellent coach and probably one of the best not currently at a club.
 
Can we beat Rangers and Southampton this week? If so then maybe the narrative changes! Then the big cup game against United. He needs 3 wins now so win the fans back. I feel like one more defeat in the next 3 could be the nail in the coffin right now
 
Got to go now.
I don’t dislike him.
His in game management is the worst I’ve ever seen
If it’s not working or you’ve been figured out, any manager changes it up. They don’t plough on with killing the players on the pitch and leaving subst late enough to kill everyone’s confidence
His in game management seems to believe that if you carry on with the same old shit, you will win.
Absolutely awful management today after we took them to the cleaners early doors.
No good manager loses that game.
And the players are good enough
 
All good points. Let's assume Postecoglou's system works. If so, how many additional Premier League ready players are needed to provide the depth and rotation to keep up the pace Spurs play at? And that doesn't even touch on your point of needing players at the next level up from players like Johnson and Werner.
If you asked him for a sincere answer (not one that he would give in front of journalists to ingratiate himself with Levy) he would probably ask for an entire overhaul of the squad. He would maybe make an exception for <5 players, but I really think he's content at best, unhappy at worst with most of the current squad. But again, that's just another truism. Every manager would like to upgrade their GK, CB or any other position if given the opportunity. The question is whether Ange has done anything in his career or in his tenure here to justify that kind of an invesment for his 'project'. My answer is no. He has a resume where even Celtic, a team leagues below us, looks like an anomaly compared to rest. If you had spent over two decades in Australia and Japan, you have no leverage to ask for marquee signings worth dozens of millions. You need to earn that respect. And he hasn't done anything that would remotely justify him getting that kind of support. So the question of whether he's properly backed or not becomes a moot point IMO
 
Got to go now.
I don’t dislike him.
His in game management is the worst I’ve ever seen
If it’s not working or you’ve been figured out, any manager changes it up. They don’t plough on with killing the players on the pitch and leaving subst late enough to kill everyone’s confidence
His in game management seems to believe that if you carry on with the same old shit, you will win.
Absolutely awful management today after we took them to the cleaners early doors.
No good manager loses that game.
And the players are good enough
I do. He’s a thin skinned surly halfwit who can’t take criticism. He’s come unstuck in the big league and is lashing out at all and sundry. Speaks volumes to how fragile the man’s ego is.

And his in game management sucks the big one.
 
yep. people will be laughing in 10 years time at his system and tactics. 9 men and dier standing on the halfway line....in fact i think as soon as hes sacked the media will bring that up anyway.

hes a fat cunt too!

Since we are on the subject of his embarassing moments. Remember at Brighton away also, when he said he didn't make any subs because he wanted the team to suffer....and he doesn't believe in winning by playing badly. He's rather lose.

He's a fraud bullshit merchant.
 
Reason why weve got so many injuries is his tactics are burning players out. We need an olympic village full of athletic footballers to play consistently under ange. Impossible.
Bollix narrative this IMO. Not having a good enough squad to rotate is the problem. Give me the injuries that were caused by Ange's style? All had their own individual twist.

The problem is injuries lead to more injuries because you cannot rotate. Look at Ben Davies for example. Due to both our centre backs being out, we were left with no choice but to start Ben Davies every game. Remember he played 2 games for Wales during the international break before playing all the games for us on return. City, Roma, Fulham, Bournemouth. 6 games within 3 weeks, with no rest and he eventually picked up an injury. It was inevitable that he would breakdown eventually if we did not rest him but we'd no other options.

Thats why teams tend to have write off seasons once they experience a bad injury crisis (City this season, Liverpool 20/21). Once you lose 5 or 6 players and have a busy schedule then you are screwed as cannot rotate at all and its inevitable the injury crisis will just keep getting worse. Its awful timing really, an international break would be very welcome but there is none until March!
 
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