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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
Not really 10 though is it? How many are actual proven quality first teamers?
Even if 9 weren’t first teamers, the problem is that the likes of Porro, Udogie, Bissouma, Dragusin, Solanke aren’t getting the rest they need. It’s causes poor performance and injuries.

What is happening to us is exactly what happened to Newcastle last season. At this stage they were mid table with an injury crisis due to the champions league and cup football….
 
I'm just saying that those who desperately want ENIC out should do so with expectations tempered and not build it up too much. Disappointment at not reaching heightened expectations can be upsetting.

As for your last sentence Justin it is all perspective. You say dark cloud, a Soton or Derby fan might chuckle in derision at that statement. Last decade we've played in Europe all but 1 season, made a cup final and UCL final. Dark cloud to describe Tottenham to most fans in football would seem to be the whining of spoilt brats. We still have it better than 99% of clubs in Europe.
You can't be serious?
I thought you were a reasonable fan.
I didn't think there was anyone left, even the most diehard Levy fans that used the fear of things getting worse as an argument for keeping them around.
 
We're mid-table because we dropped 8 points against 3 teams in the relegation zone,and lost another 6 points from a position of 2 goal leads. Nothing to do with lack of depth or anything else. It was entirely avoidable.

Such a wasted opportunity, as top 4 would have been easily attainable with the way Woolwich and City are struggling this season, and the likes of Utd, Villa, Newcastle and Brighton are not exactly pulling up any trees themselves.
 
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We're mid-table because we dropped 8 points against 3 teams in the relegation zone,and lost another 6 points from a position of 2 goal leads. Nothing to do with lack of depth or anything else. It was entirely avoidable.

Such a wasted opportunity, as top 4 would have been easily attaniable with the way Woolwich and City are struggling this season, and the likes of Utd, Villa, Newcastle and Brighton are not exactly pulling up any trees themselves.

Things normally level out towards the end of the season.
 
Do I? That's not what I said. Maybe give it a re-read.

The use of the phrase 'dark cloud' was highly hyperbolic, all I was pointing out is that to fans of 99% of clubs us whining over 4th-7th place finishes and a UCL final in the last 10 years would come across as spoilt.

Of course we want our club to be better, what fan of any club doesn't. It's akin to anyone in a first world country such as USA, UK, AUS, GER etc etc crying about being poor. Even the worst off in those countries is still miles better off the most of the people on the earth. And we're better off even in a period of unrest than 99% of clubs in Europe. All about perspective.
Are you going tonight? How much was your ticket? Same question for Sunday?
 
The Ange in crowd need to be quiet about injuries - pre Southampton we only had 3 first team players injured, Vic, Romero, VDV. Romero and VDV were rushed back by Ange.

Forster has arguably been our best player this last month, so Vic has not been a huge miss so far.

Aside from that we have had Bentancur banned.

We’ve been very disappointing over the course of the season and injuries are not the reason for that despite what some might say
 
Even if 9 weren’t first teamers, the problem is that the likes of Porro, Udogie, Bissouma, Dragusin, Solanke aren’t getting the rest they need. It’s causes poor performance and injuries.

What is happening to us is exactly what happened to Newcastle last season. At this stage they were mid table with an injury crisis due to the champions league and cup football….
Spurs aren't in the champions league like Newcastle were. Now it's 'rest they need'. Schooled in Europe so far... like he was with Celtic. Ok there were results against teams nobody has heard of.. . Us, all the new aussie support is us. Don't know if that's the case with you but the other ones it is exactly what I was expecting and dreading. Carry on with the cultship.
 
Yesterday we saw 2 egregious bits of media shit baiting with Ange.

1. They ask him about Rashford and he says he's not interested in rumours. They make a headline about him not interested in Rashford.

2. He gives a piss take answer about the job being harder than Prime Minister

View: https://x.com/LastWordOnSpurs/status/1869511418120413358

The BBC runs a story like he was dead serious


List of things Ange isn't interested in:
- Rashford,
- Set pieces,
- Defending,
- Abuse from Spurs fans,
- Whether people like him or not.....

Feel free to continue the list. 😋
 
What is your source for this?
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Spurs aren't in the champions league like Newcastle were. Now it's 'rest they need'. Schooled in Europe so far... like he was with Celtic. Ok there were results against teams nobody has heard of.. . Us, all the new aussie support is us. Don't know if that's the case with you but the other ones it is exactly what I was expecting and dreading. Carry on with the cultship.

Is there some sort of rule where you're players are meant to be more tired in the Champions League or something?
 
We also pay more for tickets than 100% of clubs in Europe, and have the lowest wage vs turnover ratio % than all 150 professional clubs in England

By that metric, Dorking Wanderers are more ambitious - if you think our fans are spoilt brats, you are quite the cunt
Where have you found the info on wages to turnover for all the clubs? I’d be keen to see the figures if you have a link please.
 
Is there some sort of rule where you're players are meant to be more tired in the Champions League or something?
maybe.... you'd know. regarding the point. Newcastle were playing against the elite first time round for a while. Fernsomeones and Quarabag aren't really that are they.. last season wasn't enough games and this season too many but it's not into the next stages yet so you will most likely be correct in whatever you are saying about tired men on 100k a week. 👨‍🎓
 
Spurs aren't in the champions league like Newcastle were. Now it's 'rest they need'. Schooled in Europe so far... like he was with Celtic. Ok there were results against teams nobody has heard of.. . Us, all the new aussie support is us. Don't know if that's the case with you but the other ones it is exactly what I was expecting and dreading. Carry on with the cultship.

sorry this really confused me, how have we been "Schooled in Europe" you know we've lost just the once right away to Galatasaray?

nonsensical hyperbole, stop it
 
maybe.... you'd know. regarding the point. Newcastle were playing against the elite first time round for a while. Fernsomeones and Quarabag aren't really that are they.. last season wasn't enough games and this season too many but it's not into the next stages yet so you will most likely be correct in whatever you are saying about tired men on 100k a week. 👨‍🎓

So you're saying that players who play in the Europa League shouldn't be as tired as players who play in the Champions League as if there's some sort of unwritten rule that football is meant to be less strenuous when you drop down a level in competition, what brilliantly weird logic.

I suppose if you're playing Conference League football I suspect players can play every 3 days at full intensity and not suffer from any fatigues at all according to your logic.
 
maybe.... you'd know. regarding the point. Newcastle were playing against the elite first time round for a while. Fernsomeones and Quarabag aren't really that are they.. last season wasn't enough games and this season too many but it's not into the next stages yet so you will most likely be correct in whatever you are saying about tired men on 100k a week. 👨‍🎓
Let’s not forget that Villa are above us despite playing the likes of Bayern and Juve rather than Qarabag and Ferencvaros.
 
sorry this really confused me, how have we been "Schooled in Europe" you know we've lost just the once right away to Galatasaray?

nonsensical hyperbole, stop it
nice one mate .. stop it..👩‍🎓 nonsensical ☺️ you do appear to be easily confused from what i have read of your contributions to mankind on here.. but carry on. It's insightful stuff.
 
So you're saying that players who play in the Europa League shouldn't be as tired as players who play in the Champions League as if there's some sort of unwritten rule that football is meant to be less strenuous when you drop down a level in competition, what brilliantly weird logic.

I suppose if you're playing Conference League football I suspect players can play every 3 days at full intensity and not suffer from any fatigues at all according to your logic.
okay chum
 
So you're saying that players who play in the Europa League shouldn't be as tired as players who play in the Champions League as if there's some sort of unwritten rule that football is meant to be less strenuous when you drop down a level in competition, what brilliantly weird logic.

I suppose if you're playing Conference League football I suspect players can play every 3 days at full intensity and not suffer from any fatigues at all according to your logic.
The difference is simple, Villas line up in CL games is almost exactly the same as Prem games.

Our line up in the EL is heavily rotated to our Prem starting 11 - for a start we Moore, Lankshear, Bergvall, Dragusin and Davies - none of whom are genuine starting players in the league for us. I’m sure Odobert would have had more minutes also
 
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