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Are you alright? Where have I said anything of the sort?

I've said a change of ownership won't be the path to utopia, and also said ENIC should have been ousted after Super League.
Never mentioned things getting worse, or wanted ENIC to stay.

I think we'll be the same as we are with new owners. A 4th to 7th club.

Aside from not sure what the relevance is exactly. It'd cost me an airfare from the other side of the world for starters.
So no.
It’s relevant - it’s easy to say we are in the top 6 alls good but it doesn’t factor in our history (50’s to 80’s of being London biggest club), nor the cost and effort of expecting more than that (based on ridiculous ticket orices). Relevant context you are missing
 
It’s relevant - it’s easy to say we are in the top 6 alls good but it doesn’t factor in our history (50’s to 80’s of being London biggest club), nor the cost and effort of expecting more than that (based on ridiculous ticket orices). Relevant context you are missing
I could argue you're missing context that when the first division changed to the EPL and money exploded from there we missed the boat. We were a club that through out the 90s was not particularly well run and other clubs got the march on us and we've never recovered that lost ground.

Ticket prices are a uniquely football centric issue. I have a season ticket to a different sport and pay hundred's a year for the privilege and have held that ticket for all but 6 years of my life, and never have moaned about the money spent and that creating an expectation for success. Season tickets regardless of the sport should be for the entertainment value with success being the cherry on top, and this seems to be how it works in Rugby, NFL, NBA, MLB etc. etc. Football tribalism in England ruins that, the pressure to succeed is largely based off not wanting to be the victim of office banter at work.

The price charged by Spurs may be high, and it should be lower. Being a London club wouldn't help with the price setting as costs would be higher in the capital.
 
This is false

If I recall the only time we've really 'heavily rotated' is against Ferenchvaros, Besiktas we played with 5/6 starters - the rest have been pretty much almost all first 11.
Think your incorrect here Shady. When we had a full strength squad, we were rotating heavily. All of Gray, Dragusin, Davies, Bergval, Werner, Richarlison and Moore started games and none of them would be regarded as first team. Unforunately the squad has been so decimated with injuries that we've only been able to make 2/3 changes for last 2 games but first 3 games, we definitely made atleast 5 in each game.
 
Are you alright? Where have I said anything of the sort?

I've said a change of ownership won't be the path to utopia, and also said ENIC should have been ousted after Super League.
Never mentioned things getting worse, or wanted ENIC to stay.

I think we'll be the same as we are with new owners. A 4th to 7th club.

Aside from not sure what the relevance is exactly. It'd cost me an airfare from the other side of the world for starters.
So no.
You can't be certain that new ownership won't yield a positive change because you don't know who any potential new owner will be.
That itself is a certainty. You can't be certain.

What is certain is that nothing will change now, not with these leeches.
 
You can't be certain that new ownership won't yield a positive change because you don't know who any potential new owner will be.
That itself is a certainty. You can't be certain.

What is certain is that nothing will change now, not with these leeches.
Where have I said anything remotely close to something that's certain?
I have also not said not to change ownership.

I just don't believe ownership is what's stopping us becoming a title chasing club and that the likelihood is the status quo remains similar just a different name on the chairman's door.
 
Are you alright? Where have I said anything of the sort?

I've said a change of ownership won't be the path to utopia, and also said ENIC should have been ousted after Super League.
Never mentioned things getting worse, or wanted ENIC to stay.

I think we'll be the same as we are with new owners. A 4th to 7th club.

Aside from not sure what the relevance is exactly. It'd cost me an airfare from the other side of the world for starters.
So no.

Where have I said anything remotely close to something that's certain?
I have also not said not to change ownership.

I just don't believe ownership is what's stopping us becoming a title chasing club and that the likelihood is the status quo remains similar just a different name on the chairman's door.

You've said a few times, in very certain terms, that changing owners won't change anything.
 
Think your incorrect here Shady. When we had a full strength squad, we were rotating heavily. All of Gray, Dragusin, Davies, Bergval, Werner, Richarlison and Moore started games and none of them would be regarded as first team. Unforunately the squad has been so decimated with injuries that we've only been able to make 2/3 changes for last 2 games but first 3 games, we definitely made atleast 5 in each game.

Isn't that the crux of the argument? When has our squad been full strength when we've made allowances to rest players, once or twice when we've had Europa matches, the rest we've fielded significantly strong teams.

It's a silly argument anyway started by some troll who seemingly doesn't know what he's talking about, lame.
 
It's an opinion.

If we both agree that we should change owners but you think it will be what propels us forward then why give a shit if I think it changes little?

Just hope you end up being right in which case I won't give a toss that I was wrong.
Changing owners changes everything.

Spurs haven't had decent owners since the mid 80's.

Irving Scholar fucked Spurs and saddled us with Venables & Sugar.

Sugar began the 'limited budget' journey we have been on since 91 and handed the baton to Daniel Greedy.

The trophies and glory this club was once all about is now just an anecdote to the young, megadome dwellers reared on ENIC's austerity.
 
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Changing owners changes everything.

Spurs haven't had decent owners since the mid 80's.

Irving Scholer fucked Spurs and saddled us with Venables & Sugar.

Sugar began the 'limited budget' journey we have been on since 91 and handed the baton to Daniel Greedy.

The trophies and glory this club was once all about is now just an anecdote to the young, megadome dwellers reared on ENIC's austerity.

Doubtless Sugar made a tidy profit?
 
We're mid-table because we dropped 8 points against 3 teams in the relegation zone,and lost another 6 points from a position of 2 goal leads. Nothing to do with lack of depth or anything else. It was entirely avoidable.

Such a wasted opportunity, as top 4 would have been easily attaniable with the way Woolwich and City are struggling this season, and the likes of Utd, Villa, Newcastle and Brighton are not exactly pulling up any trees themselves.

Every season more and more teams are struggling - its nearly like its not so easy to just rock up and beat every team week in week out.

Hence why we are, despite the losses you mention, - still very much within reach of the top 4.
 
We're mid-table because we dropped 8 points against 3 teams in the relegation zone,and lost another 6 points from a position of 2 goal leads. Nothing to do with lack of depth or anything else. It was entirely avoidable.

Such a wasted opportunity, as top 4 would have been easily attaniable with the way Woolwich and City are struggling this season, and the likes of Utd, Villa, Newcastle and Brighton are not exactly pulling up any trees themselves.
We're mid table because that's who we are.
 
Bit 'arsh......last time we won the F.a cup....🤷‍♂️
I lost interest in Spurs under Venables.

If you look at the squad Venables inherited it was his signings that sowed the seeds for what went wrong after he left the club.

Venables inherited the best Spurs side until Poch's 15 / 16 team.

He signed Paul Stewart, for a huge fee, as a striker who couldn't score goals and sold Clive Allen.

He sold Ruddock to Southampton and then bought him back. He filled the side up with mediocrity like Sedgley, Samways, Fenwick, Cundy, Austin, Edinburgh, Walsh, Mimms and many others while allowing quality players to leave.

He signed Gascoigne and Lineker who carried his team until the day they left.

Ossie inherited a bucket of shit from Venables and every subsequent manager struggled as a result.

Nick Barmby, Sheringahm and Anderton were also decent signings.
 
I lost interest in Spurs under Venables.

If you look at the squad Venables inherited it was his signings that sowed the seeds for what went wrong after he left the club.

Venables inherited the best Spurs side until Poch's 15 / 16 team.

He signed Paul Stewart, for a huge fee, as a striker who couldn't score goals and sold Clive Allen.

He sold Ruddock to Southampton and then bought him back. He filled the side up with mediocrity like Sedgley, Samways, Fenwick, Cundy, Austin, Edinburgh, Walsh, Mimms and many others while allowing quality players to leave.

He signed Gascoigne and Lineker who carried his team until the day they left.

Ossie inherited a bucket of shit from Venables and every subsequent manager struggled as a result.

Nick Barmby, Sheringahm and Anderton were also decent signings.

Paul Stewart was hit and miss I’ll give you but he did score a decent goal in the FA Cup final and took it well

Apparently abused as a child
 
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