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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
I'm liking very much the way we keep bouncing back from big setbacks. It's actually a good sign that the group is growing in mental resilience

This period under Ange is definitely a rollercoaster ride
 
Great win in the end last night, it’s always even better when it’s United and City too, we have City’s number and United must be hating playing us after the last few seasons. We move on in the cup and we really have to win something here, tbh I’d have us go out all out for cups this season. I genuinely don’t think we have the personnel for both, go all out for the league cup, the FA cup or the EL. Currently I’d say the EL is ‘easiest’, the FA cup is too early to see how the draw pans out further, and I actually think the league cup is really difficult from here however it pans out, though I’d actually love us to face the Geordies in the final, see someone different win something for a change either way (I also think it’s our best chance).

Performances wise last night, it’s what I’ve come to expect, we played well for twenty minute periods but the issue is the same for me, there are clear moments where there’s a decision to be made that would see us be more consistent overall and it’s left until it starts going wrong. At 3-0 up we could have seen it out, and no, Ange isn’t to blame for two goals that are clear and obvious errors from Forster, but there’s a lack of nous around seeing out games - that’s all I’ll say as it’s the pattern that I personally see and it’s, for me, why we are where we are in the league. However I’m not getting into some discussion where people call each other names because they aren’t 100% one way or the other.

Ange is correct, the games we are involved in are an entertaining watch, and yes scoring goals is fun, do o personally see it leading to success? Honestly who cares. However at least I’m not bored watching our games like I have been for a few years. I’m just here for the ride, and whilst I reckon I know where it goes, you’ll never see me be upset by us winning, advancing in cups, and wiping up salty Mancunian tears.

COYS
 
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The very fact he quoted this last night in his Sky interview makes me very uncomfortable. Starting to believe the bollocks hype Sky cronies are heaping on him

It makes you very uncomfortable???? There are plenty more serious things in life to feel very uncomfortable about than a few quips from an Australian bloke in charge of a football team

If it's anything it's a bit of fun, he couldn't care less what Sky or anybody else thinks. Ange does and says whatever he wants, he is not here to be liked he is simply doing the job in his authentic way. He has said it and preached throughout his career, he wants his team's to play entertaining football, he literally would rather win 4-3 rather than 1-0, and at his age he is not going to change his beliefs and principles
 
This is also the bloke who openly admitted post match that tactics and adjusting them don't come into his thinking and relys on the mistakes his players make as tactics enough going forward!!
Get this fool out of my club asap.

No, that's not what he said.

On numerous occasions he had referred to sticking to a game plan, and players learning through the process. Understanding that players will make mistakes, as they all do in ANY system, but not deviating from the team system.
 
People need to move on from the prime minister thing, I’m not the blokes biggest fan as a manager but he wasn’t making some grand societal commentary like some seem to be suggesting. He made a joke and kept a straight face. He doesn’t need comparing to Starmer et al 🙈
 
I am at peace with our style of play and playing out from the back, inciting teams to press us leads to many of our best play and goals. It was pleasing to note that Spence and Gray both seem very adept at it too. What frustrates me about Ange is that he seems very slow to react to momentum swings. The momentum swing happened at 3-0 when Man U brought on 3 fresh players and committed more men forwards. We were already running on fumes and could not cope with the tempo that Man U set. That said, it was only 2 individual errors by Forster (who has been MotM in ~80% of the games since Vicario's injury) that let them back into the game. Also, last night was tough as we did not really have a bench for Ange to be able to change anything, and both Bergvall and Johnson struggled when they came on.
Bit unfair on Bergvall that.
 
Shady, your response demonstrates exactly why your opinions hold so little weight.

Rather than engaging with the actual argument, you consistently misframe others as irrational or ‘hysterical,’ seemingly because you lack the ability to address their points with any substance. Case in point: Ange’s comment about football management being the hardest job in the world.

My critique was straightforward—it’s an absurd and tone-deaf statement, especially when compared to roles like military service, healthcare, or emergency response. It’s not ‘hysterical’; it’s a basic observation of perspective and privilege, the man makes £2 mill a year after tax to stand at the side of a pitch, an absolutely absurd statement and frankly embarrassing.

Also, regarding your bizarre fixation on my past opinions, like a pre-season comment you’ve clearly clung to (which I can’t even remember, wouldn’t surprise me if you had it in a word document somewhere along with your collection of poster quotes you bring up after losses) further highlights your obsession. You spend countless hours here telling others to ‘chill’ or ‘touch grass,’ yet your own posts reek of hypersensitivity and a relentless need to stir conflict. The irony is almost impressive.

Frankly, your contributions add little value on here. You dodge real debate, distort what others say, and resort to petty quips. Your attempts to provoke don’t upset me and your opinions barely register because you rarely offer any on the debates at hand—the only thing that even remotely irritates me about you is how you drag down the quality of discussion for everyone else.

If you genuinely believe in fostering better debate, start by engaging with points intelligently rather than projecting your own lack of self-awareness onto others. Otherwise, it’s impossible to take you seriously.

In before you say your “You think I am going to read that” because you have nothing else to offer.

I will save you the time, like I said before, I don’t actually care if you read it, so no need to respond unless it’s actually constructive and offers a counterpoint to what I initially said about Ange.
He's a fucking troll. Should be universally on ignore by now.
There's a handful on here who would argue with literally anything some people say.
They're trolls.
 
We had 10 players out you muppet

This is the same team you've been waxing lyrical all over since the Summer by the way and you were adamant they've overtaken us yet here you are making excuses for them when they have a full squad to pick from

Clown sanctuary in full swing again, I swear half of you aren't Spurs fans
Pategoniapillock definitely isn't, Chelsea Blue through and through.
 
Shady, your response demonstrates exactly why your opinions hold so little weight.

Rather than engaging with the actual argument, you consistently misframe others as irrational or ‘hysterical,’ seemingly because you lack the ability to address their points with any substance. Case in point: Ange’s comment about football management being the hardest job in the world.

My critique was straightforward—it’s an absurd and tone-deaf statement, especially when compared to roles like military service, healthcare, or emergency response. It’s not ‘hysterical’; it’s a basic observation of perspective and privilege, the man makes £2 mill a year after tax to stand at the side of a pitch, an absolutely absurd statement and frankly embarrassing.

Also, regarding your bizarre fixation on my past opinions, like a pre-season comment you’ve clearly clung to (which I can’t even remember, wouldn’t surprise me if you had it in a word document somewhere along with your collection of poster quotes you bring up after losses) further highlights your obsession. You spend countless hours here telling others to ‘chill’ or ‘touch grass,’ yet your own posts reek of hypersensitivity and a relentless need to stir conflict. The irony is almost impressive.

Frankly, your contributions add little value on here. You dodge real debate, distort what others say, and resort to petty quips. Your attempts to provoke don’t upset me and your opinions barely register because you rarely offer any on the debates at hand—the only thing that even remotely irritates me about you is how you drag down the quality of discussion for everyone else.

If you genuinely believe in fostering better debate, start by engaging with points intelligently rather than projecting your own lack of self-awareness onto others. Otherwise, it’s impossible to take you seriously.

In before you say your “You think I am going to read that” because you have nothing else to offer.

I will save you the time, like I said before, I don’t actually care if you read it, so no need to respond unless it’s actually constructive and offers a counterpoint to what I initially said about Ange.
Damn. Ended.
 
He's a fucking troll. Should be universally on ignore by now.
There's a handful on here who would argue with literally anything some people say.
They're trolls.
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I think as a team and club we have issues with leadership and game management but neither of those were an issue last night, the pressure was brought on by 2 huge GK errors. The 2nd in particular isn’t even a consequence of playing style, Forster had SOOO much time.

For me I was more concerned by the space we gave Bruno in that first half and how eerily similar it was to our inability to deal with Enzo in the Chelsea game. I appreciate we play high risk football but we have to spot the issues and deal with them, the MF runners are our Achilles heel right now.

Overall though I thought we were good, and this really should have been a comfortable victory. Ange deserves credit for that bearing in mind the injuries.

2 key points that I hope Ange has taken note of:-

1) We’re just a flat out better side with the front 4 we had yesterday. Johnson and Son as the wide players just doesn’t give you any relief of pressure or an outlet. Would love to see this front 4 more often.

2) If everyone gets back to fitness and Ange dumps Spence back into obscurity I’ll be fucking raging. From both an attacking and defensive perspective he offers so much. Mazraoui has been excellent for Utd this season and he was terrified of Spence’s athleticism. This feels like a Gareth Bale moment for Spence (not expecting him to get to that level of course) where it was injuries and circumstance that got Bale into the first team and then he flew. I hope the same is true or Djed.

Great win. Not the best semi draw but you know with us it’ll be entertaining!
 
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