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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%
  • Total voters
    113
enfield1985 said:
Ange doesn’t coach either. He speaks to his coaches and they design the training. So he heavily relies on competent coaches which by most their CVs I am not sure anyone on Spurs Staff is.
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It really does bother me that he didn’t show up with a coaching entourage like most managers we’ve had in the past. From what I read he starts with new staff every time he gets a new role. There wasn’t a single person from his time at Celtic that came with him. I’m not sure how common this approach is, my assumption is it’s probably rare.
 
DJ Check Complete said:
It really does bother me that he didn’t show up with a coaching entourage like most managers we’ve had in the past. From what I read he starts with new staff every time he gets a new role. There wasn’t a single person from his time at Celtic that came with him. I’m not sure how common this approach is, my assumption is it’s probably rare.
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It is not even that for me. It is the fact that his coaches are quite inexperienced as well. Simple fact is they are meant to drill his tactics and most of them are just our ex academy coaches.

Where are the Sports Scientists and data analytics teams as well?
 
DJ Check Complete said:
It really does bother me that he didn’t show up with a coaching entourage like most managers we’ve had in the past. From what I read he starts with new staff every time he gets a new role. There wasn’t a single person from his time at Celtic that came with him. I’m not sure how common this approach is, my assumption is it’s probably rare.
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It is rare. A manager/head coach usually has at least parts of his own staff that he brings along. If not a full set. But some roles being filled in house by the club isn't uncommon either. Jose for example has like 2-3 guys that are his constants, then he switches some out depending on the club he is at. Poch has his full crew that follows him wherever he goes.

Putting a fully new staff together for a new job like Ange does is very rare.
 
ShutUpPatrik said:
It is rare. A manager/head coach usually has at least parts of his own staff that he brings along. If not a full set. But some roles being filled in house by the club isn't uncommon either. Jose for example has like 2-3 guys that are his constants, then he switches some out depending on the club he is at. Poch has his full crew that follows him wherever he goes.

Putting a fully new staff together for a new job like Ange does is very rare.
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That’s exactly what I assumed. I remember Poch, Jose, Conte, Redknapp, AVB, (Jol I’m not too sure) all brought people with them.
 
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Jose Dominguez 25 said:
Wolves
Newcastle
Woolwich
Everton
Leicester
Brentford

Next 6 league games, way things are currently going I don't see him lasting past Woolwich. New manager bounce for the next 3 and we go again :levystare:
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According to Sami Mokbel, he has up until the CC semi final against Liverpool (unsure on if it is just the first leg or both) to save his job.

Whenever a manager is giving a goal like this you know that they are hanging loose. Let's see if it is the kick up the ass needed for Ange to prioritise results over philosophy.
 
ShutUpPatrik said:
It is rare. A manager/head coach usually has at least parts of his own staff that he brings along. If not a full set. But some roles being filled in house by the club isn't uncommon either. Jose for example has like 2-3 guys that are his constants, then he switches some out depending on the club he is at. Poch has his full crew that follows him wherever he goes.

Putting a fully new staff together for a new job like Ange does is very rare.
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Who did he take to celtic with him? The guys at celtic wanted to stay there so what can ange do?
 
DJ Check Complete said:
It really does bother me that he didn’t show up with a coaching entourage like most managers we’ve had in the past
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Sorry mate this was a massive red flag from the off. It actually speaks to a really strange kind of egotistim and a worrying lack of fine detail. Which now makes perfect sense. If the coaches are learning the system at the same time as the players this leaves zero room for error. If this was good practice the total reverse would not be industry standard..

He thinks he reinventing the wheel. On a very basic level if no one has been on the coaching journey with you they can't reassure the players when it gets bad that this is a genuine part of a winning process. It's one of the first things that worried me.
 
DJ Check Complete said:
It really does bother me that he didn’t show up with a coaching entourage like most managers we’ve had in the past. From what I read he starts with new staff every time he gets a new role. There wasn’t a single person from his time at Celtic that came with him. I’m not sure how common this approach is, my assumption is it’s probably rare.
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amateur stuff. would of been laughed at in the early 90s, never mind 2024.
 
malin said:
Overlapping/traditional full-back mostly just make one-timer cross/quick 1-2 with winger and runs back into position. Also he provides width to our CBs and CMs during build-up in less crowded pitch areas. If we lose the ball (mostly its not fullback who loses it) then its easier for given full-back to track back and cover his side - because of his starting position.

I find it much less riskier than playing as some sort of 6 during build-up on our half, and as 10 when in possession in final 3rd - mostly because we expect our full backs to operate in very crowded areas, where its easier to lose the ball. And for guys like Udogie or even Spence its not natural environment. We lose ball in such scenario typically means whole wings are exposed.

Also worth to mention that with traditional fullbacks usually only one is involved in final 3rd at once, so another can sit deeper, or join at later stage of action when ball switches side. In our gameplan, we usually involve both of them at once.
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The thing about inverted FBs is the whole design of being inverted is that they clog the middle of the pitch and act as the start of the rest defense for transitions. It’s a tactic that’s been part of most of the best teams across Europe for the last decade.

But when they get forward, one of the CMs probably need to rotate into the FB positions they vacate. They big spaces open up when nobody rotates or the player rotating gets beaten.

Ange’s system isn’t especially different to what Pep and Klopp have been winning the PL with for the last ten seasons.
 
ShutUpPatrik said:
According to Sami Mokbel, he has up until the CC semi final against Liverpool (unsure on if it is just the first leg or both) to save his job.

Whenever a manager is giving a goal like this you know that they are hanging loose. Let's see if it is the kick up the ass needed for Ange to prioritise results over philosophy.
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Unlikely because he believes his philosophy is how he gets results.

He will either win those games playing his way, or he’ll lose and be gone
 
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