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Management Ange Postecoglou

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FightingIllini said:
It's true that it all got a bit ridiculous in October 2023, but you gotta give credit where it's due just to understand it.

We were a totally rudderless operation playing wretched football having failed under two of the most decorated managers in modern history, and then we sold Harry Kane, a player on whom we were utterly, toxically dependent.

And then this Aussie bloke comes in, radically changes the playing philosophy IMMEDIATELY, stops playing a bunch of wastrels who had been hanging around the club for years, and beds in a raft of new young talent, and it all works! Complete with a brash, devil-may-care attitude that pushes the toxic stasis out the door.

To turn the narrative page the club was stuck in after the Conte rant with the Kane contract situation having reached the end of the line was a pretty amazing feat.

The underlying problems that led us into that rut haven't been solved and can never be and will never be under Levy's leadership, but Ange was a breath of fresh air in a room that didn't appear to have any windows to open when he arrived.
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Those are some great points tbf :kanehand:
 
The Mercurial No.10 said:
BTW Look at the team Juande Ramos had retrospectively and compare them to the team today...

GK Paul Robinson
RB Alan Hutton
CB Jonathan Woodgate
CB Ledley King (c)
LB Pascal Chimbonda
RM Aaron Lennon
CM Jermaine Jenas
CM Didier Zokora
LM Steed Malbranque
CF Robbie Keane
CF Dimitar Berbatov

Subs:
GK Radek Černý, DF Kaboul, MF Tainio, MF Tom Huddlestone, FW Darren Bent.

Fuck me, almost every single one of them then would walk into this side and improve it IMO (and I fucking hate JJ). How do we get a mega stadium, increase wealth, yet the quality drops so much? 🤔
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You're doing that classic revisionism thing again when looking at players of the past and comparing them when they were at their peak as opposed to what they were at the time :D

Yeah the Cup Final lineup was decent but you forget we finished 11th that season...the squad was absolutely shit, King and Woodgate didn't even play that much as they were always injured, in fact the CB pairing was Kaboul and Dawson most of the time and they were a disaster lol, the full backs were crap, Lennon only scored like 3 goals that season lmao, Berbatov and Keane were obviously outstanding.

Tainio, Huddlestone (that season) and Bent were all average.
 
i'm biased and know absolutely nothing but i think the boys are claiming injuries to stop playing for ange and i don't blame them. i'd be thinking how the fuck is this clown still my coach and then grab my hamstring.

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AberdeenYid said:
That’s weird. All I’m reading on here is:

Conte is top of the league.
Nuno near the top.
Poch USMNT Manager.
Jose doing well in Turkey.
AVB King of Porto.

Seems like getting hired and fired here does spectacular things for your CV. Iriola would come here and be manager of Real Madrid in a couple of years.
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I didn’t say you wouldn’t get another job or not win anything with another club did I .
The point I was making was , when a manager looks back on his time with us , there will be nothing to look back fondly of , except a large payoff for being sacked
 
The Mercurial No.10 said:
BTW Look at the team Juande Ramos had retrospectively and compare them to the team today...

GK Paul Robinson
RB Alan Hutton
CB Jonathan Woodgate
CB Ledley King (c)
LB Pascal Chimbonda
RM Aaron Lennon
CM Jermaine Jenas
CM Didier Zokora
LM Steed Malbranque
CF Robbie Keane
CF Dimitar Berbatov

Subs:
GK Radek Černý, DF Kaboul, MF Tainio, MF Tom Huddlestone, FW Darren Bent.

Fuck me, almost every single one of them then would walk into this side and improve it IMO (and I fucking hate JJ). How do we get a mega stadium, increase wealth, yet the quality drops so much? 🤔
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Nah- maybe a couple of them “walk” into our side but most of those players would be at lesser clubs now. King, Lennon, Berbatov “walk” in. Maybe Keane too, but that’s about it.
 
Kane's left said:
That is an excellent point tbf, just like horses, maybe our players are each suited to different ground conditions? Sarr is Senegalese, so because of the very hot, dry conditions he was brought up with, he's more suited to firm ground perhaps? We obviously can't change the ground to suit each player, and this is thinking out in left field quite a bit, but instead of maybe signing an up and coming world class player this transfer window, we could hire a world class up and coming podiatrist?! Just some food for thought!:freund:
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Increasingly teams are maintaining a constant press, where in the past they had different types of press they used depending on the situation in the game. Teams could back off at some points during games and gather themselves and take reduced fatigue and injuries. Often teams simply could get a breather kicking the ball downfield to take off the pressure. If you play with the same intensity, all game every game, there's an injury risk that comes along with it. Spurs aren't Man City in terms of having the depth to gives players games off. The BBC article yesterday quoting a Postecoglou training staffer from Celtic, also noted he was frequently taking players off after 60 minutes. That won't fly in the Premier League.
 
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