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Management Ange Postecoglou

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I just watched the embargoed bit of the press conference and he seems very calm, he’s not coming across as a manager under any pressure whatsoever. Surely if we lose Sunday he won’t have a leg to stand on but I couldn’t say with any certainty he’ll be sacked if we do. I just think the team lacks so much whoever is playing and that won’t differ.

But this is where giving the squad zero help makes no sense as well.

They all just seem content to bumble along.
Think you're right, the team is bumbling along with management all over the club happy with the current state of affairs.
 
What context then are you referring to? I watched it, it is what he said and it looked to me he meant it that way exactly. There was no smirk or comment around it meaning something else. Unless I missed some nuance
Oh ffs!
The context was that there’s now a solid base , youth exposed to senior team, an overhaul of the medical, S and C, a clean out of overpaid has beens, a new identity, a change in culture, that a willingness to accept mediocrity has been washed away et al.
Are you seriously that thick?
 
Ange's comments on Maddison in that embargo section completely kill off any idea that they have fallen out. Seems pretty obvious Ange has just been trying to keep him fresh because the way he spoke about his leadership and mentality, they are clearly seeing eye to eye

Also he has not been injured this season and when he is on the pitch, he is fairly consistent.
 
Oh ffs!
The context was that there’s now a solid base , youth exposed to senior team, an overhaul of the medical, S and C, a clean out of overpaid has beens, a new identity, a change in culture, that a willingness to accept mediocrity has been washed away et al.
Are you seriously that thick?
There’s no need to be rude. You have not explained any context that changes or alters what he said. He said the squad and everything about the club is better. Try explaining where the context is in that, that changes it.

Or are you too thick to understand the question?
 
In respect of the injuries, I would like to know if Postecoglou attributes any blame on his methods, be that training, his tactics or how much he played certain players, prior to that option being taken through limited numbers?
 
I just watched the embargoed bit of the press conference and he seems very calm, he’s not coming across as a manager under any pressure whatsoever. Surely if we lose Sunday he won’t have a leg to stand on but I couldn’t say with any certainty he’ll be sacked if we do. I just think the team lacks so much whoever is playing and that won’t differ.

But this is where giving the squad zero help makes no sense as well.

They all just seem content to bumble along.
I'm probably seeing stuff that isn't there but it seems to be another bit of evidence of a potential takeover/partial takeover.

Like, why else would everyone be so content with things as they are?
 
I don't wanna hear from you until you've worked out whether you're a fan of xg or not.

I LOVE using it to show how worthless the Postecoglites are. When we were losing (like we do a lot under the fraud) but winning the underlying metrics, they mattered.

Now when we win but lose the metrics, the result is all that matters…

The reality is Hoffenheim are utterly dreadful and yet we made them look competent. Because we have a fucking binman at the helm.

Like I’ve said before, I don’t hate Ange. He’s just a not good enough manager trying to do a job. I hate the Evangelista cultists who are putting their love of a fairly ordinary bloke in front of the club.
 
I LOVE speaking a load of bollocks

Stare Staring GIF
 
Common Solanke hasn’t been banging in the goals for fun. Has he scored a hatrick or anything like that?
Brennan wasn't scoring at all until he started playing with Solanke. I feel Solanke just being there, occupying the opposition centre backs, creates opportunities for his team mates in a way Richarlison doesn't.

Both work hard but Spurs are better when Solanke plays.

Solanke has been a better player for Spurs than I expected him to be. He wasn't a player I had particularly noticed before he signed in the summer but he is already one of Spurs best players in my opinion.
 
There’s no need to be rude. You have not explained any context that changes or alters what he said. He said the squad and everything about the club is better. Try explaining where the context is in that, that changes it.

Or are you too thick to understand the question?
Um, yeah I did.
As I said, are you thick?
If you cannot understand the context then we have nothing else to discuss. You’re just another Ange out cultist who reads and interprets what they want to suit their own narrative.
And trust me, I’m not being rude, like many on here are to me.
But I can be….
 
I didn't watch the game as I was out catching up with my old work colleagues who I haven't seen for about a year. What is the consensus after Hoffenheim?

I saw we went into a two goal lead but then did we collapse in the second half?

the score line isn't very convincing to nearly throw away a 2 goal lead.
 
In respect of the injuries, I would like to know if Postecoglou attributes any blame on his methods, be that training, his tactics or how much he played certain players, prior to that option being taken through limited numbers?

Tell me how much he did play them?

I keep hearing this but I am pretty sure we roated pretty heavily in the cups... especially at CB
 
Personally I think it’s a barbed comment at anyone who is no longer at the club. Anyone who might be giving those interviews……a bit of a fuck you.


“You can do a million investigations and talk to anonymous sources but you don’t need to talk to anonymous sources you can talk to me. Every decision that is made is on me. I’m responsible for it. I’m the one that is guiding this. If you’re looking for a head on a stick take mine. But I am absolutely 100 per cent confident that we are in a much better place in all areas of the club today than we were when I started.”
The gall of the man! I’m amazed he can say that with a straight face. Let’s go through the ‘charge’ sheet.
When conte left we was 3/4th in the league. Even Stellini /Mason combo left us in 8 but we should discount that as that is on levy the fuck wit.
We have spent over£350M under ange
He has got rid of players he didn’t want
Levy said Ange would push through our academy players - negative in fact his pushed most out, none have established themselves
We can’t keep a clean sheet for love nor money
Tamworth no need to say more
Consecutive loses of 3 or more games numerous times
15th currently
Only 9 wins in league on last 9 months or so
Letting in 3 goals to Everton who couldn’t scored in a brothel
Injuries all over the place which are on Ange like cuti and VDV v chavs
We could beat fodder even with full strength team
Buying Werner twice
Inverted wingers and tactics leaving us so open
Conceding chances every game like it’s out of fashion, eg Everton could have had 5 in the first half, Thursday oppo had over 20 attempts and it’s been same in many games
NLD record and v chavs and spam terrible
Not picking spence!
I’m sure there’s lots more but the above is enough
 
PL squad list taken from their site. Maybe this is out of date?
We named 23 players. 4 goalkeepers. So 19 outfield players. Take off reguilon and Robson I get 17. Reguilon was only there as nobody else wanted him. I don’t even know who max Robson is but we are almost in February and he has played zero minutes in a season we have had an injury crisis.
So I’m not counting those two as senior outfield players Ange could rely upon. They were just names on a sheet of paper.

Each squad contains no more than 17 players who do not fulfil the "Home Grown Player" (HGP) criteria. The rest of the squad, up to a total of 25 players, must be "Home Grown".

25 Squad players (*Home grown)
1 Austin, Brandon Anthony*
2 Bentancur, Rodrigo
3 Bissouma, Yves
4 Davies, Benjamin Thomas*
5 De Andrade, Richarlison
6 Dragusin, Radu-Matei
7 Forster, Fraser Gerard*
8 Heung-Min, Son
9 Johnson, Brennan Price*
10 Kulusevski, Dejan
11 Maddison, James*
12 Porro Sauceda, Pedro Antonio
13 Reguilon Rodriguez, Sergio
14 Robson, Max*
15 Romero, Cristian Gabriel
16 Sarr, Pape Matar
17 Solanke-Mitchell, Dominic Ayodele*
18 Spence, Diop Djed*
19 Udogie, Iyenoma Destiny
20 Van De Ven, Micky
21 Vicario, Guglielmo
22 Werner, Timo
23 Whiteman, Alfie Malik*

And I don’t buy this project stuff.

Last season Ange was saying his aim this season was to challenge for the league.
This season he reiterated that prior to the Woolwich game.

Anything now stating hey we never wanted/planned to be near the top teams right now is pure revisionist talk.

“This is the project stage!!”

Someone is bullshitting. Maybe Ange is just a salesman for levy peddling cheap goods as something else. But I think he really thought we had enough about us.



There has never been a time we have had this few experienced senior players. It makes no sense in a season we knew we would play more games.
I’m wondering if Ange’s naivety at this level alongside the boards famous Penny pinching tactics have given us this perfect storm.


Our lack of homegrown club trained players is also killing us in Europe.
We can’t currently maximise the 25 man squad depth in that Comp. So we do have to be quite clever with who we loan / buy and leave off the EL squad.
Yes he wasn’t interested in 4th last season he wanted top
Spot. This season was the big push but it’s a bit like blackadder last series. Anyways he ALWAYS wins 2nd season let’s hope he does.
 
We’ve also culled the squad of overpaid, average players leaving just a few to go - Werner, Bissouma and Johnson.

I do think Ange has to take responsibility for injuries. He didn’t rotate enough until he had to - players like Spence, Gray even Austin should have come in much sooner for Europa League to allow players like VDV, Romero, Vic, Porro and Solanke midweeks off (I know the positions don’t fully line up but it’s just a quick example)
Werner and Johnson ffs! They are his signings.
Boss is a good player but not a 6.
 
What context then are you referring to? I watched it, it is what he said and it looked to me he meant it that way exactly. There was no smirk or comment around it meaning something else. Unless I missed some nuance

From his demeanour he couldn’t give a shit!

He knows he’s getting fired at the end of the season with a decent pay off so just going through the motions and has been doing so since well before Xmas

Problem for Levy ATM is that if we go down his position becomes untenable!

For us fans it’s a shitshow!
 
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