Manager Ange Postecoglou

[Matt1882]

Well it looks like Fab is on the case and we know the useless bald turd listens to him.
Did anyone find out what Munn does yet?

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Munn seems to be employed to keep Ange employed.

It'll be interesting to see how resilient ticket sales are if/when Son leaves. In a lot of ways it feels like his star power is keeping the stands full more than our actual football right now.

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Wish one of those Son fans would buy my United and City tickets. That's £190 i could use now far more than the effort to go to those games.

Been reading paratici. Not sure I want another italian to manage us. Wont be long weather is shit, food shit, homesick etc. High maintenance italian managers imo.

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Mancini, Ancelotti, Conte, Ranieri all won Premier League titles. Possibly the most productive country for managers for the PL?
There's others that have done well as well.

Usually I rate this guy's content. But fuck me, it's like he's not watched a proper game of ours under Ange. Just regurgitating stats and spouting off about our goal difference, as if walloping Lopetegui's Spam and a 10 men Ten Hag united in crisis is something to crow about. Anyone with eyes who's been forced to watch us week in week out by now knows how utterly uncoached this team is, with or without our first XI available.

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Half our fanbase cite goal difference as evidence we're not shit.
They also cite our record of only ever losing by 1 goal. Despite the fact that a) that happens more often than we win and b) we narrow the scoreline late on in many cases

If our own fans are too dim to see how shit we are, you can't expect neutrals to be all over it.

 

[Mick Cooper]

From Spurs chat

I’m going to ask a serious question? Are you fans or are you supporters?

Are you TTID or TTwhenweareinthechampionsleague?

Ange, love or hate him is a man among men, a true human for others. Our so called fans are crucifying our players and everyone involved at the club.

And he has stood up and taken full responsibility, sack him but do not fault the effort of the players of this magnificent football club.

Archie Gray is 18, he’s a defensive midfielder and he has deputised as a centre back against some of if not most of the best players in world right now.

And he has not looked out of place that is unbelievable, he has absolutely done this club, it’s legacy the badge and the supporters proud.

Mikey Moore is 17………let that sink in, what were you doing at 17? I bet it wasn’t breaking the record for youngest goalscorer in Europe in British history, by a mile.

The kid also has not looked out of place competing against the best in the game.

Lucas Bergvall is 18, he’s came from the Swedish first division, a so called lesser league. And has played some absolutely breathtaking football, showed unbelievable grit, desire, determination and fortitude.

Just like the other two young lads. Dane Scarlett? We all wrote him off as soon as he went to Oxford United, the lad had come back a man possessed. Absolute credit to the badge.

Oyindamola Ajayi 19 years old, be honest had any of you even heard of this kid before he showed a piece of absolutely superb top 1% strikers killer instinct, touch move and shot. It was sublime.

That kid is definitely one to watch.

Djedi Spence…..whatever he learned in France worked for him because he is an absolute baller and due to him being left out of the European squad has been a standout performer.

I’ve highlighted some of the young lads absolutely thriving under Ange in great adversity.

But let’s not forget the senior lads who have played almost 3 months Thursday-Sunday, minimal training, constant pressure, so called fans who absolutely disgrace themselves with some of the stuff that comes out of their mouths.

And they are still fighting, every single game, Kulusevski, Son, Sarr, Porro, Davies, Bissouma, they are completely dead.

Running on empty, but we have fought very bravely every single match. And if you actually understood how unbelievably tiring playing every 3 days in the best league in the world you would see the fight, the heart, the desire, determination and spirit that I see.

Have we been whacked? Have we lost games by many goals, had no chances to score, not defended tooth and nail for everything?

Apart from against Livarpool who have been killing everyone the answer is no.

Ask yourself that? If this team didnt care, didn’t believe in Ange, didn’t care about the supporters do you think they would keep killing themselves every 3 days?

Have we not fought till the final whistle in every game?

I can’t understand how supporters, fans and plastic wankers can’t understand this. If you only have 3 days rest and the other team has 6 you can’t expect to match them physically in a straight battle.

Now add in 11 first team injuries, losing your starting goalkeeper, both starting Centre backs, one of your reserve centre backs, your starting left back, your best midfielder, your brand new 65million pound striker, and your highly rated exciting winger.

So now you can’t rotate any of the players that are playing every three days and every single match.

Why is it people can’t understand that we are being beaten because our team is basically fighting every game with one leg.

Please take a god damn look at yourselves, do you think you fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters, uncles, aunts, cousins or the bloody milkman. Whoever got you supporting this club, the purest football club in the world.

We are so committed to the beautiful game we have suffered ugly for many many years.

But ask yourselves what would those people who gave you the precious gift of your beloved Lilywhites be thinking about how you are supporting the club now??

Somehow I don’t think many of them would be proud, because there are a lot of people who say they support THFC that need to find a new club or stop whining like Tesco customers when they have to wait in line.

Honour your history, our history, honour your legacy, our legacy and fight through this pain.

Bollocks to our rivals, bollocks to the wanker pundits who couldn’t coach a pub side playing Sunday morning at Hackney marshes.

Every single coach in world football can see what Ange is trying to do. The players are killing themselves for you and you are literally crucifying them.

You underestimate the power of faith, it is always darkest before the dawn fellow Lilywhites. Unite, fight and watch this team rise from the ashes and bring back the glory to white Hart Lane,

TTID

Sums up a large majority on here

"But they are saying mean things on other clubs message boards and being nasty"

 

[SpurFromOz]

From Spurs chat

I’m going to ask a serious question? Are you fans or are you supporters?

Are you TTID or TTwhenweareinthechampionsleague?

Ange, love or hate him is a man among men, a true human for others. Our so called fans are crucifying our players and everyone involved at the club.

And he has stood up and taken full responsibility, sack him but do not fault the effort of the players of this magnificent football club.

Archie Gray is 18, he’s a defensive midfielder and he has deputised as a centre back against some of if not most of the best players in world right now.

And he has not looked out of place that is unbelievable, he has absolutely done this club, it’s legacy the badge and the supporters proud.

Mikey Moore is 17………let that sink in, what were you doing at 17? I bet it wasn’t breaking the record for youngest goalscorer in Europe in British history, by a mile.

The kid also has not looked out of place competing against the best in the game.

Lucas Bergvall is 18, he’s came from the Swedish first division, a so called lesser league. And has played some absolutely breathtaking football, showed unbelievable grit, desire, determination and fortitude.

Just like the other two young lads. Dane Scarlett? We all wrote him off as soon as he went to Oxford United, the lad had come back a man possessed. Absolute credit to the badge.

Oyindamola Ajayi 19 years old, be honest had any of you even heard of this kid before he showed a piece of absolutely superb top 1% strikers killer instinct, touch move and shot. It was sublime.

That kid is definitely one to watch.

Djedi Spence…..whatever he learned in France worked for him because he is an absolute baller and due to him being left out of the European squad has been a standout performer.

I’ve highlighted some of the young lads absolutely thriving under Ange in great adversity.

But let’s not forget the senior lads who have played almost 3 months Thursday-Sunday, minimal training, constant pressure, so called fans who absolutely disgrace themselves with some of the stuff that comes out of their mouths.

And they are still fighting, every single game, Kulusevski, Son, Sarr, Porro, Davies, Bissouma, they are completely dead.

Running on empty, but we have fought very bravely every single match. And if you actually understood how unbelievably tiring playing every 3 days in the best league in the world you would see the fight, the heart, the desire, determination and spirit that I see.

Have we been whacked? Have we lost games by many goals, had no chances to score, not defended tooth and nail for everything?

Apart from against Livarpool who have been killing everyone the answer is no.

Ask yourself that? If this team didnt care, didn’t believe in Ange, didn’t care about the supporters do you think they would keep killing themselves every 3 days?

Have we not fought till the final whistle in every game?

I can’t understand how supporters, fans and plastic wankers can’t understand this. If you only have 3 days rest and the other team has 6 you can’t expect to match them physically in a straight battle.

Now add in 11 first team injuries, losing your starting goalkeeper, both starting Centre backs, one of your reserve centre backs, your starting left back, your best midfielder, your brand new 65million pound striker, and your highly rated exciting winger.

So now you can’t rotate any of the players that are playing every three days and every single match.

Why is it people can’t understand that we are being beaten because our team is basically fighting every game with one leg.

Please take a god damn look at yourselves, do you think you fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters, uncles, aunts, cousins or the bloody milkman. Whoever got you supporting this club, the purest football club in the world.

We are so committed to the beautiful game we have suffered ugly for many many years.

But ask yourselves what would those people who gave you the precious gift of your beloved Lilywhites be thinking about how you are supporting the club now??

Somehow I don’t think many of them would be proud, because there are a lot of people who say they support THFC that need to find a new club or stop whining like Tesco customers when they have to wait in line.

Honour your history, our history, honour your legacy, our legacy and fight through this pain.

Bollocks to our rivals, bollocks to the wanker pundits who couldn’t coach a pub side playing Sunday morning at Hackney marshes.

Every single coach in world football can see what Ange is trying to do. The players are killing themselves for you and you are literally crucifying them.

You underestimate the power of faith, it is always darkest before the dawn fellow Lilywhites. Unite, fight and watch this team rise from the ashes and bring back the glory to white Hart Lane,

TTID

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"But they are saying mean things on other clubs message boards and being nasty"

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I really enjoyed that Mick. Cheers.

 

[Maureen]

Does he get them to perform some of the most basic pressing drills on the training ground and call it a day? We have not been leaking goals for the last 18 months because our back 5 is outrageously error prone, but because we can't nip attacks in the bud due to this chaotic running around disguised as pressing. Teams no longer feel the need to sit back and hit us on the counter like they were doing in earlier days of Ange's tenure, because they have simply figured out how to carve us open. Romero and VdV -especially the latter- not being able to go out there and perform heroics week in and week out exacerbated our defensive woes, but the root causes have always been our piss poor team shape and pressing schemes.

Kinsky's howler was not even the worst thing about the first goal for example. Rodgers found himself WIDE open in the centre of the pitch (how?), started dribbling into the space in front of him, realized that out of nowhere FOUR people running at full speed appeared on the scene (why?) yet somehow there was a straightforward pass to make (again, how?). Ramsey received the pass, shot, and scored. All this happened inside the first minute of a football match by the way, not in the 89th minute when we were desperately chasing a match or something. And this is not a one-off occurrence, it's been happening under every imaginable circumstance for the last 18 months.

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It’s bcos the only defensive tactic Ange has ‘developed’ is VDVs pace. Said it ages ago that is our only plan. We have not worked on anything else. If we had we would see the high number of attempts against us even when we have all our players back.

 

[matspur]

People talk about the first 10 games, but last season we also went 16 league games Won 10, Drew 3, Lost 3. Certainly top 4 form.

We suffered 2 poor runs.

1st run we lost Udogie, Romero, VDV & Romero.. and were forced to play Davies/Royal at CB....surprise surprise 5 games without a win.

2nd run, we had to play all the best teams in the league, one after another. By this point, the players were knackered due to our lack of squad depth.

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This is nonsense Harry. We played 38 PL games, 2 FA Cup and 1 League Cup match. Only 5 players played more than 30 PL matches. They can’t have been knackered. Leicester won the league 10 years ago with a virtually unchanged team. Our deficiencies last season were not due to tiredness. The second poor run we had at the end of the season Ange had virtually a fully fit squad to choose from. The reality was we came up against better coached sides with more effective managers

 

[Maureen]

Deflecting criticism by hiding behind young players and guilt-tripping fans with “These 18/19-year-olds are doing their best, don’t you dare speak badly of them” is as cowardly as it gets, exactly what I’d expect from this gaslighting egomaniac.

The vast majority of criticism is aimed squarely at him, not the players. Yet, instead of addressing it head-on, he resorts to emotional manipulation and gaslighting to shield himself.

And as for the whole “It doesn’t bother me what people say about me” Of course it does. If it didn’t he wouldn’t be scrambling to dodge every ounce of scrutiny with this kind of transparent bullshit.

Such a grifter and he’s doing a real con job at this football club.

Can’t stand him.

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100%. He gets such a soft ride from the media. All they have ask is why is Porro in the Villa half in minute 1 of an important FA cup game away from home to a top PL. team. Especially after having got thumped in the previous game. Simples!

 

[Kiro Kompiro]

From Spurs chat

I’m going to ask a serious question? Are you fans or are you supporters?

Are you TTID or TTwhenweareinthechampionsleague?

Ange, love or hate him is a man among men, a true human for others. Our so called fans are crucifying our players and everyone involved at the club.

And he has stood up and taken full responsibility, sack him but do not fault the effort of the players of this magnificent football club.

Archie Gray is 18, he’s a defensive midfielder and he has deputised as a centre back against some of if not most of the best players in world right now.

And he has not looked out of place that is unbelievable, he has absolutely done this club, it’s legacy the badge and the supporters proud.

Mikey Moore is 17………let that sink in, what were you doing at 17? I bet it wasn’t breaking the record for youngest goalscorer in Europe in British history, by a mile.

The kid also has not looked out of place competing against the best in the game.

Lucas Bergvall is 18, he’s came from the Swedish first division, a so called lesser league. And has played some absolutely breathtaking football, showed unbelievable grit, desire, determination and fortitude.

Just like the other two young lads. Dane Scarlett? We all wrote him off as soon as he went to Oxford United, the lad had come back a man possessed. Absolute credit to the badge.

Oyindamola Ajayi 19 years old, be honest had any of you even heard of this kid before he showed a piece of absolutely superb top 1% strikers killer instinct, touch move and shot. It was sublime.

That kid is definitely one to watch.

Djedi Spence…..whatever he learned in France worked for him because he is an absolute baller and due to him being left out of the European squad has been a standout performer.

I’ve highlighted some of the young lads absolutely thriving under Ange in great adversity.

But let’s not forget the senior lads who have played almost 3 months Thursday-Sunday, minimal training, constant pressure, so called fans who absolutely disgrace themselves with some of the stuff that comes out of their mouths.

And they are still fighting, every single game, Kulusevski, Son, Sarr, Porro, Davies, Bissouma, they are completely dead.

Running on empty, but we have fought very bravely every single match. And if you actually understood how unbelievably tiring playing every 3 days in the best league in the world you would see the fight, the heart, the desire, determination and spirit that I see.

Have we been whacked? Have we lost games by many goals, had no chances to score, not defended tooth and nail for everything?

Apart from against Livarpool who have been killing everyone the answer is no.

Ask yourself that? If this team didnt care, didn’t believe in Ange, didn’t care about the supporters do you think they would keep killing themselves every 3 days?

Have we not fought till the final whistle in every game?

I can’t understand how supporters, fans and plastic wankers can’t understand this. If you only have 3 days rest and the other team has 6 you can’t expect to match them physically in a straight battle.

Now add in 11 first team injuries, losing your starting goalkeeper, both starting Centre backs, one of your reserve centre backs, your starting left back, your best midfielder, your brand new 65million pound striker, and your highly rated exciting winger.

So now you can’t rotate any of the players that are playing every three days and every single match.

Why is it people can’t understand that we are being beaten because our team is basically fighting every game with one leg.

Please take a god damn look at yourselves, do you think you fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters, uncles, aunts, cousins or the bloody milkman. Whoever got you supporting this club, the purest football club in the world.

We are so committed to the beautiful game we have suffered ugly for many many years.

But ask yourselves what would those people who gave you the precious gift of your beloved Lilywhites be thinking about how you are supporting the club now??

Somehow I don’t think many of them would be proud, because there are a lot of people who say they support THFC that need to find a new club or stop whining like Tesco customers when they have to wait in line.

Honour your history, our history, honour your legacy, our legacy and fight through this pain.

Bollocks to our rivals, bollocks to the wanker pundits who couldn’t coach a pub side playing Sunday morning at Hackney marshes.

Every single coach in world football can see what Ange is trying to do. The players are killing themselves for you and you are literally crucifying them.

You underestimate the power of faith, it is always darkest before the dawn fellow Lilywhites. Unite, fight and watch this team rise from the ashes and bring back the glory to white Hart Lane,

TTID

Sums up a large majority on here

"But they are saying mean things on other clubs message boards and being nasty"

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Some good points but.....

the premier league is not a youth development league. The fans are paying top dollar. They're entitled to ask for quality ready-made players. This club should not only be in the mix for trophies, it should actually be winning them

 

[spurulina]

From Spurs chat

I’m going to ask a serious question? Are you fans or are you supporters?

Are you TTID or TTwhenweareinthechampionsleague?

Ange, love or hate him is a man among men, a true human for others. Our so called fans are crucifying our players and everyone involved at the club.

And he has stood up and taken full responsibility, sack him but do not fault the effort of the players of this magnificent football club.

Archie Gray is 18, he’s a defensive midfielder and he has deputised as a centre back against some of if not most of the best players in world right now.

And he has not looked out of place that is unbelievable, he has absolutely done this club, it’s legacy the badge and the supporters proud.

Mikey Moore is 17………let that sink in, what were you doing at 17? I bet it wasn’t breaking the record for youngest goalscorer in Europe in British history, by a mile.

The kid also has not looked out of place competing against the best in the game.

Lucas Bergvall is 18, he’s came from the Swedish first division, a so called lesser league. And has played some absolutely breathtaking football, showed unbelievable grit, desire, determination and fortitude.

Just like the other two young lads. Dane Scarlett? We all wrote him off as soon as he went to Oxford United, the lad had come back a man possessed. Absolute credit to the badge.

Oyindamola Ajayi 19 years old, be honest had any of you even heard of this kid before he showed a piece of absolutely superb top 1% strikers killer instinct, touch move and shot. It was sublime.

That kid is definitely one to watch.

Djedi Spence…..whatever he learned in France worked for him because he is an absolute baller and due to him being left out of the European squad has been a standout performer.

I’ve highlighted some of the young lads absolutely thriving under Ange in great adversity.

But let’s not forget the senior lads who have played almost 3 months Thursday-Sunday, minimal training, constant pressure, so called fans who absolutely disgrace themselves with some of the stuff that comes out of their mouths.

And they are still fighting, every single game, Kulusevski, Son, Sarr, Porro, Davies, Bissouma, they are completely dead.

Running on empty, but we have fought very bravely every single match. And if you actually understood how unbelievably tiring playing every 3 days in the best league in the world you would see the fight, the heart, the desire, determination and spirit that I see.

Have we been whacked? Have we lost games by many goals, had no chances to score, not defended tooth and nail for everything?

Apart from against Livarpool who have been killing everyone the answer is no.

Ask yourself that? If this team didnt care, didn’t believe in Ange, didn’t care about the supporters do you think they would keep killing themselves every 3 days?

Have we not fought till the final whistle in every game?

I can’t understand how supporters, fans and plastic wankers can’t understand this. If you only have 3 days rest and the other team has 6 you can’t expect to match them physically in a straight battle.

Now add in 11 first team injuries, losing your starting goalkeeper, both starting Centre backs, one of your reserve centre backs, your starting left back, your best midfielder, your brand new 65million pound striker, and your highly rated exciting winger.

So now you can’t rotate any of the players that are playing every three days and every single match.

Why is it people can’t understand that we are being beaten because our team is basically fighting every game with one leg.

Please take a god damn look at yourselves, do you think you fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters, uncles, aunts, cousins or the bloody milkman. Whoever got you supporting this club, the purest football club in the world.

We are so committed to the beautiful game we have suffered ugly for many many years.

But ask yourselves what would those people who gave you the precious gift of your beloved Lilywhites be thinking about how you are supporting the club now??

Somehow I don’t think many of them would be proud, because there are a lot of people who say they support THFC that need to find a new club or stop whining like Tesco customers when they have to wait in line.

Honour your history, our history, honour your legacy, our legacy and fight through this pain.

Bollocks to our rivals, bollocks to the wanker pundits who couldn’t coach a pub side playing Sunday morning at Hackney marshes.

Every single coach in world football can see what Ange is trying to do. The players are killing themselves for you and you are literally crucifying them.

You underestimate the power of faith, it is always darkest before the dawn fellow Lilywhites. Unite, fight and watch this team rise from the ashes and bring back the glory to white Hart Lane,

TTID

Sums up a large majority on here

"But they are saying mean things on other clubs message boards and being nasty"

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Is this a parody? Being Ange in our out is irrelevant to supporting Tottenham. You can blame the manager, ENIC, both or neither for recent failures and still be Tottenham till I Die.

I'll tell you who isn't Tottenham till I Die, the group of fans who would stop supporting the club if Ange were sacked tomorrow.

 

[dudu]

The only thing to add is that Spurs have played 9 more games than Brighton this season.

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Well, and who the injuries are to.

Missing your central back trio is significant.

Liverpool without Allison VDV and Konate for 4 months
Woolwich without Raya Gabriel and Saliba for 4 months

Makes a big difference - and for 100% we should still be doing much better than we have - but still

 

[Deleted member 16746]

I forget if I have asked already but where are you based? Bangkok?

What sort of dickhead gets up in the middle of the night to watch Spurs lose.

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Easy. Some of us have been doing this for 10, 15 years or more.

 

[_mehstg]

Last year he was claiming that the lack of games was hurting our form. Now we have too many. Up is down and black is white for these idiots.

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He's not saying it's a bad thing to be in cups and playing twice a week. I want him out but criticise fairly... he's saying it's a bad thing with a small, depleted squad to be playing twice week.

 

[Go on son]

Aussie media report FYI

‘Laughing stock’... or ‘village idiots’ who can’t hack an Aussie? Making sense of Ange ‘agenda’ claim

Laughing stock... or ‘village idiots’ who can’t hack an Aussie? Making sense of Ange ‘agenda’ claim

www.foxsports.com.au

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Biased muck. Afforded more time. Ive never seen a manager backed more for 0 return

 

[Richard Arlison]

He's not saying it's a bad thing to be in cups and playing twice a week. I want him out but criticise fairly... he's saying it's a bad thing with a small, depleted squad to be playing twice week.

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Indeed.

And in fairness, we finished 5th playing once a week last year. Considering we’d lost Kane and not signed any elite level forwards to replace him, it wasn’t a season that needed excusing.

 

[Go on son]

Aussie media report FYI

‘Laughing stock’... or ‘village idiots’ who can’t hack an Aussie? Making sense of Ange ‘agenda’ claim

Laughing stock... or ‘village idiots’ who can’t hack an Aussie? Making sense of Ange ‘agenda’ claim

www.foxsports.com.au

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So many things wrong with that article. The only thing right is the media having an agenda against us.
Eddie Howe had massive credit in the bank from Champions league etc. Also they still spent less than us.
And are in a final as it says. Unlike us

 

[manmountainbutters]

Biased muck. Afforded more time. Ive never seen a manager backed more for 0 return

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playing the closest they have to the race card - it’s because he’s an outsider /Australian etc. tedious as fuck. Can’t see the world for what it is. Perhaps they should get together with compatriot Sam Kerr to discuss ??

 

[rusty]

Well, and who the injuries are to.

Missing your central back trio is significant.

Liverpool without Allison VDV and Konate for 4 months
Woolwich without Raya Gabriel and Saliba for 4 months

Makes a big difference - and for 100% we should still be doing much better than we have - but still

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agree injuires to first teamers has a big impact But if the second string players are not the same standard a good manager/coach changes the way the team plays,
WHY has he not changed the way we play ? hes EGO is too big for he's skill level

 

[kingdawson]

Fucking Leicester sacked Ranieri the season after winning the fucking league. Even in that season he got them to a CL quarter final ffs.

Yet we keep this absolute loser in charge.

 

[Nuts]

Why is it people can’t understand that we are being beaten because our team is basically fighting every game with one leg.

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We were yielding to the likes of Ipswich with a full strength team at home under Ange before all of this happened. We've been average under this guy for over a year.

You and others can back him. I have zero issue with that personally. But accept that some of us don't believe anymore and all of this Ange in vs Ange out tribal warfare isn't really helping anybody.

I don't think Levy really gives a shit about the domestic cups which is why Ange is still here. He wants him to win the Europa league and I want nothing more myself. So whether Ange goes or stays, I want us to lift that trophy, as we all should.

 

[Go on son]

The mixed messaging on injuries is not helping either

 

[dudu]

agree injuires to first teamers has a big impact But if the second string players are not the same standard a good manager/coach changes the way the team plays,
WHY has he not changed the way we play ? hes EGO is too big for he's skill level

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I agree - he should have been playing differently and we would almost definitely be in a better position....