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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
We need an interim better than Mason. And we can get one. We have the money. Money really does talk.
I have a proposal.

Daniel Greedy should pay Ange's compensation and compensate Bournemouth or Fulham, for their managers, out of his and his board colleagues annual salary and bonus.

The board of THFC have collectively achieved a Category C performance and outcome so far during the 2024 / 25 season.

In the same way that the THFC supporters have collectively payed for ENIC's 24 year catalouge of failure it is time for Levy and ENIC to pay for their own fuck ups.

Levy should be making a public apology on the pitch, before Sunday's relegation 6 pointer with Manchester United, for having to sack Ange Postecoglu.

Instead we will have to witness the coward hiding in his West Stand vantage point, watching the same old shit prevailing and then listen to Ange's press conference wondering when it will all actually end?

THFC need a new manager today.
 
As HampshireSpur HampshireSpur says above because i think he is doing damage. To the players fitness, confidence and tactically clearly scrambling their minds. How many more injuries before 1 of them becomes career threatning? How many more times will Gray or Kinsky be left exposed before it starts to really affect them?
I'm not sure about a caretaker but I'm certain there's some damage being done. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Micky's lawyers have been in touch at Hotspur Way.
 
a) we have EL to play for (and we really DO have a good chance with a decent interim), and
b) we aren't yet safe in the league
These two points, while not being contradictory per se, don't seem in synch to me. If "b" is the case, that is if you truly believe that we're not safe despite being 10 points+GD clear of a dreadful Leicester team, then you must think that this team stinks. Then how come you argue "a" in the same breath?

Besides, among a short list of managers that would take this job without harbouring any long term expectations, how many of them would be fine with stepping aside even after accomplishing something as big as winning EL? It's close to zero, if not zero. It's a moot point anyway, as based on the format alone winning EL has always been a longshot. Especially for a team that's in total disarray. A caretaker can only do so much.

At the moment, even with a caretaker, I see a treadmill team that's neither relegation fodder nor potential EL winner. That's where we differ.
 
The two days off may be something. Levy always does it when everyone is away....
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Oh FFS.

Get a fucking caretaker in. Shouldve happened in the Autumn. Potter was available but he's not good enough for us? Funnily enough Spam have improved so much they've overtaken us in the league. Look a completely different team.

Another caretaker name - Benitez. I don't like him but we're past that shit now. He actully did the same at Chavs - they hated him too - and he won them a cup.

If Benitez came in tomorrow we'd have a very good chance of winning the EL. And as that gets you CL then our season transforms from complete disaster to complete success.

As for next season there are probably 2 dozen proven managers who could take over and get us back challenging in the league. It would immediately help not having brain fart tactics.

But no. You're that deluded or in a cult that you don't see the point of getting rid.

It was obvious to anyone with eyes that we were very unlikely to get past LFC over 2 legs with the current clown. Nor Villa, depsite recent history.

The EL is shit or bust. With Ange? I'd happily bet the house on us not winning that one. With a caretaker? We'd be one of the favourites.

But no. Let's sack the season off good and proper. Losing at home to relegation certs like Ipswich and Leicester? It's what you're happy to see? Really?

Deluded idiot.
I was listening to you until you let yourself down with the name calling. I get that we are all frustrated with the current situation but taking it out on eachother isn't the solution.

We all want whats best for Tottenham in the long term. We don't all agree on what the best short term solutions are and that's normal. We will never all agree on here but should at least be able to respect each other and not be calling other Spurs fans names. I'd like to extend this to the players and manager too. We can complain about performances but we don't need to be abusing them or calling them names either.
 
Iraola/Frank won't be available until the Summer
I've come to accept that this sort of thinking is limiting/limited.

Managers will move if they think there is good reason to move. I really don't know what those motivations are other than £££. But check the current situation with John Eustace who has just gone from play off chasing Blackburn to relegation threatened Derby. Makes no sense what so ever to the outside observer. But he's done it. Would imagine it's a bumper contract and promises galore.
 
Based on Ange’s system what is our best team, not best players but best team.

Thinking possibly something like the below.

Vicario
Spence Romero VDV Udogie
Kulusevski Bentancur Maddison
Odoburt Solanke Tel

- Still torn in the 6 as we have Bentancur/Bissouma/Gray. Bissouma might be the most natural but he has been very hot and cold and Gray hasn’t been tested in what is almost certainly his long term role.

- Our wingers in this system need to be ballers and beat players. Son and Johnson seems a bit unbalanced. Our wings need to be disruptive. Tel looks interesting and Odoburt we have a guy who puts the full backs on the back foot.

- Spence is just killing it and great at both ends.

- Kulusevski is such a creative force behind the front line but he isn’t great at knitting play together hence why Maddison is so essential for this team.

- Solanke is a no brainer no argument.
 
He’s a professional bullshitter. These press conferences drive me insane. He deflects the real issue of him not being up to the job by talking about the players. And he gives it the usual awww I don’t care what they think of me sack me a million times I don’t care.

You do care you arrogant rude cunt. I’m past being nice about it now he’s a cunt and he needs to fuck off away from the club. He’s running it, and the players right into the ground.
 
Based on Ange’s system what is our best team, not best players but best team.

Thinking possibly something like the below.

Vicario
Spence Romero VDV Udogie
Kulusevski Bentancur Maddison
Odoburt Solanke Tel

- Still torn in the 6 as we have Bentancur/Bissouma/Gray. Bissouma might be the most natural but he has been very hot and cold and Gray hasn’t been tested in what is almost certainly his long term role.

- Our wingers in this system need to be ballers and beat players. Son and Johnson seems a bit unbalanced. Our wings need to be disruptive. Tel looks interesting and Odoburt we have a guy who puts the full backs on the back foot.

- Spence is just killing it and great at both ends.

- Kulusevski is such a creative force behind the front line but he isn’t great at knitting play together hence why Maddison is so essential for this team.

- Solanke is a no brainer no argument.
That midfield 3 on current form and fitness will get massacred.
 
I've come to accept that this sort of thinking is limiting/limited.

Managers will move if they think there is good reason to move. I really don't know what those motivations are other than £££. But check the current situation with John Eustace who has just gone from play off chasing Blackburn to relegation threatened Derby. Makes no sense what so ever to the outside observer. But he's done it. Would imagine it's a bumper contract and promises galore.
Big concern here is Levy's reputation precedes him more than ever.

I can see it now (rings top class manager) - "Hello, it's Daniel here - just wanted to pick your brains about..." [dial tone...]
 
I've come to accept that this sort of thinking is limiting/limited.

Managers will move if they think there is good reason to move. I really don't know what those motivations are other than £££. But check the current situation with John Eustace who has just gone from play off chasing Blackburn to relegation threatened Derby. Makes no sense what so ever to the outside observer. But he's done it. Would imagine it's a bumper contract and promises galore.
Yeah its not impossible but just feels very unrealistic. 3 big roadblocks/issues that I can think of.

1) Would the manager want to leave their club during a season or have a preference to finish the season?
2) The club would have to pay a substantially higher fee (15-20m) to get them to come during the season.
3) We are giving them an awful start by bringing them in during an injury crisis where players are fatigued. It wouldn't take long for certain fans to question them after a few bad results as is very evident on here. Results mean everything to some fans and nothing else matters even if he was trying to implement new ideas and waiting for key players like Romero, VDV and Solanke to return.

Would be a lot easier just to hire them on 1st of June! Can implement his ideas during pre season without pressure of results and should have close to a full squad available for the start of the season.
 
Based on Ange’s system what is our best team, not best players but best team.

Thinking possibly something like the below.

Vicario
Spence Romero VDV Udogie
Kulusevski Bentancur Maddison
Odoburt Solanke Tel

- Still torn in the 6 as we have Bentancur/Bissouma/Gray. Bissouma might be the most natural but he has been very hot and cold and Gray hasn’t been tested in what is almost certainly his long term role.

- Our wingers in this system need to be ballers and beat players. Son and Johnson seems a bit unbalanced. Our wings need to be disruptive. Tel looks interesting and Odoburt we have a guy who puts the full backs on the back foot.

- Spence is just killing it and great at both ends.

- Kulusevski is such a creative force behind the front line but he isn’t great at knitting play together hence why Maddison is so essential for this team.

- Solanke is a no brainer no argument.

Bergvall at at the 6 imo
 
Big concern here is Levy's reputation precedes him more than ever.

I can see it now (rings top class manager) - "Hello, it's Daniel here - just wanted to pick your brains about..." [dial tone...]
I think as Spurs fans we're so invested in the performance of the side that we over catastrophize the perceived appeal of the club.

Yes we all view Levy as a cringey little toad, but you really think Iraola is gonna hang up the phone to the prospect of multiple millions of pounds worth of wages, and the possibility that just maybe he could be the one to bring a long overdue trophy to the club?

We're paying Ange £5m per year, imagine what an actual competent and qualified manager could demand off the back of that!
 
The EL is obviously a "could win" trophy, but how, given our performances over the past couple of months in the FA Cup, the Carabao Cup, and the League, could you possibly think Ange is the best available guy to maximise our chances of winning the EL?

No sane person could come to that conclusion.

The same is true re maximising our chances of staying up. I think we will stay up (even with Ange), but our chances would be improved with a better interim.
There wasnt 1 performance in EL so far to prove we could win it
 
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