38 days ago ( Thirty-eight ) ; that’s why I’ve been more optimistic than most on here . I had hoped things were improving. I was wrong.
To re-iterate it’s been 38 days and we seem to have got worse .
38 , in case you’re still wondering.
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38 days ago ( Thirty-eight ) ; that’s why I’ve been more optimistic than most on here . I had hoped things were improving. I was wrong.
To re-iterate it’s been 38 days and we seem to have got worse .
38 , in case you’re still wondering.
Do you know the funniest thing... after his 'no one likes us' media rant on Wednesday, it dawned on me that Ange IS simply the equivalent of a Fan winning a prize to get the managers job for a season... a FANAGER if you will!
Let's be honest, despite what many think about their own ability to do a better job, had ANY of us got the Spurs managers job this season, we'd probably be achieving similar results, and having to resort to conspiracy theories, woe is me storylines, and clichéd David Brent-esque motivational quotes to try and sound like we know what we're talking about whilst in fact we're floundering!
Amge genuinely IS just one of us!
He is a lucky man ; got the chance of a lifetime but sadly for all concerned; blew it . No shame in that btw .
Let’s roll the dice before the second leg . No need to sack Ange ; he can do co-comms with Milesy and Clive Allen. Everyone’s a winner .
What’s beyond frustrating is every time we’ve a big game or against a side we should be blowing away there’s zero tempo 99% of the time, we’re completely flat. Look at all the minnows in the FA Cup or doomed clubs like Ipswich… they fight to the last breath. It was the same again tonight - huge game, coming flying out the blocks, getting after them, seeing the fans get behind you… but no, we were half asleep the entire first half. We were a disjointed mess with next to no patterns of play. What on Earth has happened to Ange’s max two touches, pass and go, not playing it backwards unless absolutely necessary… we’re completely pedestrian.
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a different person with ange's experience could realize his preferred tactics aren't playing well and roll up his sleeves and look for different solutions and he could draw on his years of experience to find those answers and it would be a great thing to see even if it ultimately failed. but not big ange, we're going to give up the same fucking goal for two years over and over while he blames everything but himself.
Thought second half was very good with a shitload of chances. Not sure why people are flapping about tactics. A bit of luck and could have had 4-5 goals. Maddison looked knackered so no surprise with his sub.
And yet here people crying in their basements and calling Ange names. Some ears deserve a cupping
And yet here people crying in their basements and calling Ange names. Some ears deserve a cupping
1. BJ is our top scorer; coming off a brace.
2. We were creating many chances between 55-70 minutes. The team was playing well and unluckily to score.
3. Maybe the limited experience playing in Europe ties.
4. Well, there keeper made some good saves and we hit the woodwork 3 times. I agree that Solanke has been very very poor. Can't seem to keep the ball and his movement off the ball terrible.
5. Its who we are mate.
It's the fine margins isn't it, 100mm lower on both occasions and without 2 fantastic saves and it would have been 5-1. Not sure what Ange could have done differently to change those margins.
However, then the rhetoric would of course been that 'It's only Frankfurt, we'd have lost if they were a decent team'.
With the substitutions, it was kind of a 'damned if you do, damned if you don't situation for him'
He clearly delayed to try and maintain momentum, but then has tired legs on the field, but if he'd subbed earlier it could have killed our momentum.
Unfortunately for him, there's no pity left in the bank.
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Honestly embarrassing. Look at the arrogance as if we are entitled to whatever luck or decisions. Hey Ange, you are the one who wanted us to win any fucking games based on our own capabilities.
You clearly haven’t been following my Fifa games , top of the league having scored 276 goals
Yeah mate if we literally scored almost every time we had a shot on target it could have been 5-1. I hate when fans say this shit. If Frankfurt had made some better final third decisions they could’ve scored 4.
We had 1.3 xG. We were definitely firmly the better side (as we should be, it was the home leg and we possess very obviously better players) but the idea we ‘should’ have scored x amount of goals is dumb.
We needed to win, we didn’t. It’s not a particular game I’ll blame Ange for but in the grand scheme of things it’s yet another disappointing result and now we have to win away.
There’s no pity for very valid reasons. And ‘it’s only Frankfurt’ isn’t rhetoric either - they’re a decent team but a side we should expect to beat at home in Europe. They didn’t play well. They don’t have that much talent and they’re bang out of form.
Nah not dumb at all when you hit the bar twice, goalie pulls off two worldies and VDV misses a sitter.
I’ll never understand the dumb fan obsession with hitting the woodwork and thinking that means you ‘should’ score.
The goalkeeper pulled off a couple of decent saves and yes, van de ven missed a good chance. For us to win 4 or 5-1 we would have been exceptionally clinical with what we actually created.
I agree with everything you say. My point was more that people are blaming Ange for the sake of blaming Ange.
We created a multitude of very good chances, it's then up to the skill of the players, and a bit of luck to turn those chances into goals.
I'm Ange out, and his tactical system of play over the season has been atrocious. However last night we actually played well enough to take a decent lead into the away fixture. Whether it was the football gods, or their keeper, it's unfortunate that it didn't happen. But as you say, it's not a failure that we can really point the blame at Ange for.
The enigma is whether we played well because they played badly, or they played badly because we played well.
Agreed… everyone is so god dam depressing even when we played well very well and create chance after chance but it’s obviously anges fault the players miss chances….
To quote Mr Josep "Pep" Guardiola esq: "My job is to get you to the final third. Yours is to finish".
( and before anyone goes there, NO I was NOT comparing Guardiola with Postecoglou"..
This is an intresting bit of revisionism. Because I can name the very many people here who saw through his crap. Who understood the man did not understand tactical periodisation, in game management, timing of substitutes and were horrified by the frauds squad building and man management. So the idea he is reflective of any and all fans is bogus. He is the God king of stupid people who could hear him chat utter shit in pressers and nod along like lemmings. He might do better than them but don't kid yourself some of us would do way better than this.
