There is a (fine) line between being unhappy (all fans are unhappy) and being toxic.Manager is shit so the fans are unhappy. No fucking way man.
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Defoe, Keane, Dawson, Jenas, Van Der Vaart even players like Mido consider themselves Spurs for life. Pretty much the whole of the Poch team. Over a long period of time a lot of our players have a strong connection to the club.
The issue is it’s fucking embarrassing setting up like that. A good side would have took ten off us that night. No pressure on the ball means you drop deep. All you need to do is have a runner from deep and you are in on goal. Any player playing in that should have the balls to say fuck you to the manager and get his team mates to drop. Imagine guys like from back in the day like Bruce,Pallister,Terry,Carvahlo,Jan and Toby accepting that sort of shit?????????????????That incident there is the most stupid thing I’ve ever seen in a football match.
Bollox to hindsight
At that point the fanbase was fully on board with it,
Whoever the next coach is will need the same level of faith in their ideas.
Waffle
Especially Bale who absolutely loves the club and tells anyone who asks him. Give Bale the choice between Spurs and Real, he’s taking Spurs.
Peter Crouch statement on how many clubs he supports now. After fucking off his boyhood club Chelsea.
“So supporting Chelsea after I finished was never an option. You might laugh but I have three teams.
“I imagine I’m going to take my boys to QPR when they are older, as it is not too far for us.
“The other two are Liverpool and Tottenham, the two clubs where I had my happiest times as a player.”
Plus as he’s 7ft tall one third of Peter crouch’s support is the same as two children supporting us.
Ramon Vega and Mido are always out there repoing Spurs too.
And every fans favourite ex player who loves us has to be Jamie O’Hara.
Loves us so much he got a job on the radio where he gets laughed at by a Chelsea fan every day - can’t get much more high profile support than that.
Poor bloke.
Dude is a troll don't waste your breath
View: https://youtu.be/a18Ae4rgtWU?si=S5IKZzvxdW4SsvSs
Damning stuff. With evidence. Facts.
Get a grip Angebois. Your man is well, well out of his depth here.
The fans were awful to Crouxh before he left , I’m amazed he has any affinity towards us . After the Real Madrid red card the fans turned on him , was quite sad to see .
Problem is that those that have the strongest connection also seem to be the one's that lack the real drive to win things.
The Poch team probably found it easiest to build that connection, because the team was doing well, the fans responded to that and idolised the players, the players felt that and put in that little bit more, and it was a self-fuelling situation.
There were some though, Walker, Eriksen, arguably Alderweireld, and a little delayed Kane, that being nearly there wasn't enough for. They wanted out, other factors at play too, but winning trophies would likely have mitigated that.
It's those players that we need, across the last two decades we have had a decent enough amount of them, but not enough together at the same time. Think of the nearly overlaps of Berbatov, Modric, VDV, King, Vertonghen, Bale, Kane, etc.
Some of them missing each other was impossible to avoid, but often it was a case of one leaving the door as the other comes in Berbatov and Modric had a couple of games in the same squad at the beginning of a season for example).
Anyway, I'm digressing, too many of our players are technically good but lacking that real desire that will grind out draws from defeats, and wins from draws. When the going gets tough they retreat into their shell, and so many fans seem to think that signing one "winner" will somehow filter through to the rest of the squad. It won't, we need them throughout, giving that strong spine that every successful team needs.
As it is, we seem to take so long in acquiring that unicorn of a player that by the time we do, the ones we had have gotten fed up and left or want to leave.
There is no deep runner in the picture though, the only one that it could be is Gallagher and he is standing still and leaning backwards. No pressure on the ball is fair comment, from the picture it looks like the player who should be doing that is Skippy ... ?
Expecting players, who by the definition of their trade jump around from club to club throughout their career to only have one club that they root for is also a bit harsh.
Fans yes, we have one club that we stick with through thick and thin. But a player is bound to build affinity for all clubs that they play for so it really isn't that weird if Crouchy has some love for both us and Liverpool.
Agreed, he does not provide environment for managers to work miracles and win big titles.
However he has been here since 2001 (!).
And yet we are looking at the worst league finish across that 24 year period.
Benchmark is not winning the league, but if form has been shit for 60 (!!) games already then I feel this is pretty telling sample.
It includes times when lot of players are injured, but also lot of time when they are not.
It includes times when we had massive amount of games in short period to play but also lot of times when there was just 1 competition to be in.
It includes two seasons when he had full pre-season with the side and had chance to make adjustments to squad (like to buy THREE new full-international side CBs, 3rd top scorer of division from previous year, plus number of really promising young talents).
And yet we are here. All the previous managers have done lot more with lot less, let's be honest.
Bingo.
I've said it before, but for all of Levy's obvious flaws. He does seem willing to invest enough for us to be in or around European places at the very least. Going all the way back to Jol that has been the average and thus what we should reasonably expect.
That Levy is by all accounts unwilling to push us beyond that is a totally separate issue to Ange having us sitting in 15th.
100%.
I’ve never played football as a professional for one club but I still have a soft spot for about 7 at the last count.
Collecting just over one a decade.
If I live till I’m 100 I might get to 15!
Which is why he’s probably still here until we get knocked out of the EL relying on some clause which prevents a sacking while still in a cup competition as Levy rightly got a lot of criticism for sacking Jose on the eve of a cup final!
Pretty much every manager since the turn of the century has dug in and waited for the sack.
There's nothing unique about it. These "men" will take a club down before they resign and walk away from a payout.
I would say chairmen need to be wiser to this and have clauses in there stating the team needs to maintain a certain level for the coach to get sacked and paid out.
But then I'd bet most coaches would walk out of the interview laughing.
Football is fucked.
Especially as it was his header against City that got us into the CL!