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Management Ange Postecoglou

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Hampshire Spur said:
All this pain would have stopped if we lost to Coventry in carabao cup in September. He would have been sacked then imo.
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PointToPatrik said:
It is pretty clear that Ange is not a fan of playing youth players unless he 100% has to.

Archie, Bergvall and Odobert are exceptions because they came in as established first team players at their old clubs. And even then Archie has fallen to the side as more senior options have come back.
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And Bergvall wouldn't have played anywhere near as much if it wasn't for injuries. Would probably be in a similar position to Gray then depsite how underwhelming our more experienced players are.
 
Os22 said:
It’s why these players (and those before them) don’t feel any pressure to perform. You get a big contract here, you play premier league, and then the choice is yours: play well and try your best and serious football club will come and pick you up in a year or two, or, just meander through collecting a wage packet - you get noticed because you play for a historic, well known club (I’m not using the word big as it doesn’t fit) but there’s no actual pressure on you to achieve anything, it doesn’t matter if you win or lose and at the end of the day if you make a semi you get a new watch… just absolute mediocrity from top to bottom.

This is why we never have players like Chiellini, Ramos, Keane etc, I k ow those players don’t exist so much these days, not in the same vein anyway, but those “win at all costs” players don’t come here, because we don’t want to win, we more simply don’t mind losing.
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yep Conte called it, it's easy here a tottenham. There's no pressure to win

tbh the only reason we are this far in the Europa imo is because of the pressure on Ange, If we were 3rd and cruising into a CL place i think we'd have got kicked out by now.
 
Os22 said:
That Milesy the “interview” chap from the club….

He is the absolute epitome of the mentality that puts this club in the sorry state it’s in.

Always an excuse, always a “we tried though…eh?” I honestly think we could lose 25-0 to Liverpool next week and he would start with “our white shirts looked lovely in the sunshine though Ange, and that’s the real win isn’t it”.

Muppet.
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Eh,

I cannot be bothered by Milesy being a happy clapper since that's his literal job. His job is to do interviews and paint things as positive as possible.

There's a mentality issue at Spurs but I don't think that it stems from the club interview guy.
 
Matt1882 said:
We went out anyway.
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To a much better side, which we'd taken a 1-0 lead to in the first leg.

I can understand people wanting Ange out, but to say you'd rather have gone out the cup so he went I can't. There will be fans that want us to lose to Bodo/Glimt for the same reason.

I'm no Ange lover, but I've seen many posts of people saying they'd take finishing bottom half if it meant winning a cup, but when push comes to shove they can't handle it. I've seen fans in a supporters group I'm in say they'd rather finish 6th than win the Europa, it blows my mind (I'm not saying you have this mindset btw) - I just think so many fans change their mind every season on what they actually want from Tottenham. One year it'd be a serial winner, then when that goes wrong they want a project manager to rebuild the team, then when that takes time they don't have the patience and dote over the previous manager we let go. It's groundhog day.


God help the next manager, because they'll be fighting a losing battle from day one.
 
Gatsby said:
To a much better side, which we'd taken a 1-0 lead to in the first leg.

I can understand people wanting Ange out, but to say you'd rather have gone out the cup so he went I can't. There will be fans that want us to lose to Bodo/Glimt for the same reason.

I'm no Ange lover, but I've seen many posts of people saying they'd take finishing bottom half if it meant winning a cup, but when push comes to shove they can't handle it. I've seen fans in a supporters group I'm in say they'd rather finish 6th than win the Europa, it blows my mind (I'm not saying you have this mindset btw) - I just think so many fans change their mind every season on what they actually want from Tottenham. One year it'd be a serial winner, then when that goes wrong they want a project manager to rebuild the team, then when that takes time they don't have the patience and dote over the previous manager we let go. It's groundhog day.


God help the next manager, because they'll be fighting a losing battle from day one.
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I've never said I'd want us to completely fuck our season over to win a cup.
I've also said from before he even became our manager I absolutely don't want to be getting beat left right and center to "play better football"

Winning is good to watch.
Losing is not.
 
Matt1882 said:
I've never said I'd want us to completely fuck our season over to win a cup.
I've also said from before he even became our manager I absolutely don't want to be getting beat left right and center to "play better football"

Winning is good to watch.
Losing is not.
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His Football is arguably not even good to watch. We do not do the simple things right even. Like yesterday the first goal is so preventable why the fuck header it back into a crowded area.
 
enfield1985 said:
I would argue we haven't played attacking football since Villa, against City he changed tactics to play on the counter.
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This is semantics but counter attacking is of course also attacking. Just another form.

The big discussion is really if you have control of the ball or not. You can play tremendous fluid attacking football without having dominance over the possession. Just like you can control possession yet produce next to nothing going forward like we are.

On paper, our attacking players are actually suited for a more counter/transition focused attacking style. But we do not play that way.
 
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