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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
I still think that he’s the wrong fit overall in terms of the league, but his management in the EL has been quite the juxtaposition. He’s animated, implements tactics, is more thoughtful on substitutions and reacts to the game better. And shithousing the second half with 3CBs too was lol.

If he applied the same in the league we’d be in a much better position. I’d imagine the majority of Spurs fans would take the EL over finishing 4th (or 5th) this year, and had we finished 10th-14th I suspect there’d be much less clamouring to move him on.

21 defeats aside in the league (which is a big aside) you have to let him start the season. Even if you know it’s wrong and may end in tears.

But Levy might just give him a little more quality now. And that might just pay dividends. Ange has some ammunition now.
 
If he stays, anyone know what he does in his 3rd seasons? :ange-arms:
jennifer lawrence everything GIF
 
I mean, winning last night was maxiumu banter - no other fans are able to say a word - was a terrible game - not one for thenutrals at all - but not one knows how to react - every other footie fan is just baffled and lost for words - its amazing.

Yeah, it is a strange one. I definitely felt more immediate joy in '08. This one is less immediate joy and more of a long-lasting happiness because it just gets better and better as time goes on. 41 years is beyond my lifetime. I only ever read about this one looking at pictures in a Tottenham opus.

The fact it was with the worst PL team just gets funnier / more of a relief every day. There are beyond my lifetime historical areas of my brain i did not know I had tension in that are gradually releasing. I fucking grew up watching Gary Doherty and finishing 14th in the league. We only dreamt about qualifying for the Uefa Cup, nevermind beating United 4 times in a season casually.
 
Tottenham manager Ange Postecoglou delivered an emotional speech to the families of the players during the team's after-party on Wednesday evening.

He said: "I made a big thing for us as a group about family this year and how important family is. These boys, I'm so proud of them, and the staff. They have been the best family that I could ever be associated with.

"More importantly, it's everyone in this room - how you have helped these boys become champions. They truly deserve it. They are outstanding people, not just outstanding players. I could not be more proud to be their manager.

"I want everyone to enjoy tonight and what it means because you are all, every single one of you, deserve it from the bottom of my heart. I have never been more proud to be the manager of a football club than the manager of these players and the people with me.

"You, the families - I played a video before the game and it inspired them to win this game today. Every single one of them is a champion. Well done and enjoy the night."
Beautiful speech.
 
Been saying for a while that I think he’ll stay on, regardless of what happened last night. I still think that’s the case.

I’ve also been saying I’d like to see him replaced in the summer.

However, I have to admit to being more than a bit intrigued as to how he’d get on next season. Tells us that he wanted to change the club by winning g a trophy. Shall we take the risk that it has changed our mentality? Does winning the cup compensate for the league season?

If we have a chance at Emery, Klopp, or someone of that standing, we should take that, but I’m less intrigued by Silva, Iriola and Frank as I am with giving Ange another go.
It's a difficult scenario to reconcile at this point in time, as emotions are as high as they could ever be and, for me personally, it's created a real conflict.

It's far too soon to make an informed decision as I'm still buzzing from last night. I was up until the wee hours just watching and absorbing absolutely everything from the match to the post match videos, I even watched a video of our 3-2 win at OT in 2012 just to keep the vibe going.

Part of me wants him to stay to show that he's learnt and adapted. His post match presser put a lot of things into perspective, with him stating that he basically shelled the PL in favour of this trophy, so that part of me is wondering if he'll show the same adaptation in the next league campaign and, let's be honest, he's earned the opportunity to show that.

Ultimately though, the decision doesn't sit with us. All we can hope for, as fans, is that the right decision is made and that will only be seen after the fact.

If he is kept on, I truly hope he smashes the granny out of the league and proves every single doubter wrong. I want that almost as much for him as I do for the club. I honestly like the man and think he is genuine. I do love to see people like that get ahead in life.
 
Roberto Di Matteo won the CL with Chelski - yet he soon got exposed for his lack of tactical abilities. Unless he's had some amazing "realizations" it's the same Angelos now than the Angelos who was not good enough a few days ago. Just look at his EPL record for the last 1 1/2 season.
Just look at the records of every Spurs manager since 1984.

Ange turns teams into winners. It's a process mate...
 
I’m worried that the well is truly dry now, and that come the weekend we’ll see the same as every other league game this season.

Would be a different situation if the performances were of a similar trend of last year, where we yoyo’d a fair bit. This year however we’ve been consistently pretty shit in the league, and I can’t say I’ve seen us build towards a particular style of play, or even seen any patterns of play.

Let him leave on a high. It wasn’t pretty but he’s succeeded where better managers have failed, and will always be remembered for that.
I mean...do any of us give a shit about Sunday's result, really?

It's time to party!
 
I feel like Ange deserves to stay, but I admit I wasn't saying that before this week. Fergie took 3 years to do anything at Utd. We never give managers time, maybe we should.

However, one way of looking at it unemotionally, is to look at Utd. HAD they scored a couple of goals last night and beaten us, would Amorim staying or leaving be the best thing for them, as a club, going forward? Would Amorim winning the cup instead of us, give Utd the best chance of being greater next season, with him, or with someone else in charge?

If you look at it like that, it's maybe easier to be objective about whether Ange is the man for Spurs next season.
 
It's a difficult scenario to reconcile at this point in time, as emotions are as high as they could ever be and, for me personally, it's created a real conflict.

It's far too soon to make an informed decision as I'm still buzzing from last night. I was up until the wee hours just watching and absorbing absolutely everything from the match to the post match videos, I even watched a video of our 3-2 win at OT in 2012 just to keep the vibe going.

Part of me wants him to stay to show that he's learnt and adapted. His post match presser put a lot of things into perspective, with him stating that he basically shelled the PL in favour of this trophy, so that part of me is wondering if he'll show the same adaptation in the next league campaign and, let's be honest, he's earned the opportunity to show that.

Ultimately though, the decision doesn't sit with us. All we can hope for, as fans, is that the right decision is made and that will only be seen after the fact.

If he is kept on, I truly hope he smashes the granny out of the league and proves every single doubter wrong. I want that almost as much for him as I do for the club. I honestly like the man and think he is genuine. I do love to see people like that get ahead in life.
My impression of his post match interview was that he adapted because it was a knockout competition, not that it was any indication of him planning on doing the same in the league.

If he stays I don't see him adapting in the league.
 
My impression of his post match interview was that he adapted because it was a knockout competition, not that it was any indication of him planning on doing the same in the league.

If he stays I don't see him adapting in the league.

He's had a couple of those matches in the league Brentford for example (can't remember the other one, may have been Wolves (H) )

He can do it when he wants, the question is whether he's too stubborn that his tactics are flawed with the players that he has or is he going to adapt to them on a regular basis.
 
Ok.

He has earnt the right to another season

If any of us questioned Levys dismissal of Mourinho one week before the cup final then wanting/pushing Levy to get rid of Ange after he’s just masterminded a UEFA cup final win and our first trophy in 17 years, needs to have long hard think.

I had like many given up on Ange but after last night, he must be given another season.

And If we do get shot of him, we deserve all the abuse and ridicule.

That said there needs to be some fine tuning from Ange and some realisation that this is the PL. Additionally we need Fabio involved.

I am now officially Ange in….

:ange-arms:
 
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