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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
Exactly

And it’s not like you weren’t Ange out staunch.


You build the squad ruthlessly and then find another coach to fit it if Ange needs to go next season.

It’s a pretty easy decision, logically.
I’m still firmly in the Ange out camp as things stand but with the important caveat that after delivering such a significant victory for the club, he deserves the chance to change minds, including mine.

I try to approach everything with a sense of openness; nothing in life should be completely rigid or immune to reconsideration.

And as you rightly point out, the logical move is to keep him on for the start of next season. That way, he’s fairly rewarded for his success and given the platform to prove that it wasn’t a one-off.

If he turns it around, great. If not, then parting ways becomes a far easier decision and one that doesn’t leave the club open to ridicule and risk derailing the motivation for more success, even with a Europa League trophy on the shelf, no one could reasonably argue against his sacking if the league form continues the way it has.
 
Doesn’t matter,

Glasner isn’t going to take you up a level from here. He’s a sideways step who only really works with a strong 11 and very limited rotation. Doesn’t really have a reputation for working with young players and is also going to cost half a player to get out of Palace,

Squad isn’t built for Glasner either. It would be a flip flop.

Unless we are talking Klopp, Xavi, or another bigger name, you are taking a crazy risk to move now. Rational decision makers don’t take risks like that.

He’s not sideways, Glasner is a better coach than him.

Crazy risk lol. We finished 17th, the football is shite and hasn’t improved. What risk? Ange isn’t winning a champions league next season, there’s no easy out to focus on.

You guys talk like we’re really risking upsetting our perfect balance here. It’s been diabolical for ages, the next coach would have to be truly shocking to be worse than 17th.
 
We did it with Conte and got 4th. 🤷‍♀️
Conte is a genuine world class manager massively under appreciated by this fanbase, there’s just not another manager out there of his level available. He also came in with us having to play only 2 games in europe (conference league) after we were given a loss to send us out when we couldn’t field a team due to Covid.

Whoever comes in will not be of contes level, will also have champions league football to contest with and no pre season to work with the team. Think it could really be 1 step forward 2 steps back if we end up having to sack ange 10 games into next season.

Just seems like such an unnecessary gamble made out of pure emotion not logic to keep him with the view of we just get someone else in if he starts the season badly.
 
That's a very strange hug. They definitely have had some run ins.


EoB-vsVM
 
Because we’ve just won a cup and fans are mostly emotional idiots who are blinded by it and have now forgotten a year and a half of shite because we beat 16th in a final.

I hope and trust the club are not as emotional or idiotic. Paratici especially. Not a huge fan of him but he is ruthless and will look at the facts. This is not a man to lead us to consistent results or success at the top level of the sport.

We face our Ten Haag, Di Matteo moment - a poor coach happening upon a cup. We can make the same mistake or go and get a proper coach in. Or continue the year and a half of absolutely garbage and our worst finish in forever.

Di Matteo masterminded his club to their first ever CL title against Barcelona and Bayern Munich after masterminding an FA cup win + also got them up the league. By the reasons people give to keep Ange he’s a genius. That achievement dwarves Ange’s.
No achievement by Chelsea 'dwarfs' our achievement you fucking bellend...
 
“But what if we choose a bad manager?” falls flat when we’ve already got one.

1 PPG over two seasons
 
No achievement by Chelsea dwarves our achievement you bellend...

Angry Paul is back .. following me like a bad smell. I don’t ever interact with you (for a reason) so I find it weird you consistently want to interact with me.

Objectively winning a CL + FA cup is a bigger achievement than winning an EL. I know that hurts your little ultra tribal EDL hoolie feelies but it’s a reality of the sport. It’s ok. The nasty facts won’t hurt you.
 
thats true! but when you watch other sides as a neutral its different aint it.

watched a few videos on frank now though and hes defo far more of a football scientist than what we have now so thats straight away a big upgrade.
You don't know that though, because football isn't a science or more accurately science is only one part among many.

I'm not saying you're wrong, far from it, just that there are so many factors that need to combine near-perfectly, like a good timepiece.
 
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