Even though last season was the first time we actually won something?
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Even though last season was the first time we actually won something?
It's the loss we needed. Like iron being forged by fire then quenched by icy cold water creating the unbreakable steel that led us to European glory
Yes this post was deliberately designed to annoy you. I only do this because I love you
Don't do it, don't do it, don't do it...
The right man at the right moment?
FUCK! Stupid devil on me shoulder
George Graham, Juande Ramos and Ange Postecoglu are the three Spurs trophy winning managers since Terry Venables.
Wasting your time. Some complete idiots actually think we won this trophy because Ange is special and a winner, and not silly logical things like draw, the circumstance of throwing away the league so early and erm .. draw.
These guys would genuinely have called Southgate a born winner had he broken England’s even longer duck at the Euros. All he needed was a couple of players to put a penalty away and he too would’ve been a genius magician. Football fan mentality.
The reality is that if we’d had this run a year earlier, we’d have faced off with Leverkusen and gone out like West Ham did. We didn’t. Luck. Circumstance. Right time and place to finally win something. Not some fucking genius.
To these people, Di Matteo is practically Jesus and Zidane is the best coach to ever grace the game.
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Apologies if this has already been posted and discussed ; but why wouldnt it make senes for MC to come in as assistent to AP . He’s completely grounded in English football and the EPL . He was tremendously effective as a player ( and that includes before , whilst and after playing for us) .
If the Ange post - UEFA / Europa : MC dream ticket goes very badly wrong ; Daniel could bin-off Ange and go with the new best thing . From what I’ve read he’s considered to be an excellent coach and tactician .
Last and by no means least he’s a free agent and would cost precisely nothing to bring on board .
I can well see MC eventually breaking into the big time as a manager / coach . Why shouldn’t that be with us .
Stranger things etc ….
i just had an amazing chicken souvlaki pita and a mythologie lager at a greek street festival. draw your own conclusions
What ae they basing this on?
Michael Carrick: Middlesbrough sack head coach
Middlesbrough part company with boss Michael Carrick after two-and-a-half years in charge.
Apologies if this has already been posted and discussed ; but why wouldnt it make senes for MC to come in as assistent to AP . He’s completely grounded in English football and the EPL . He was tremendously effective as a player ( and that includes before , whilst and after playing for us) .
If the Ange post - UEFA / Europa : MC dream ticket goes very badly wrong ; Daniel could bin-off Ange and go with the new best thing . From what I’ve read he’s considered to be an excellent coach and tactician .
Last and by no means least he’s a free agent and would cost precisely nothing to bring on board .
I can well see MC eventually breaking into the big time as a manager / coach . Why shouldn’t that be with us .
Stranger things etc ….
Well, for starters it doesnt make sense from Carrick point of view. This is ok, if Ange is also starting fresh.
Why would Carrick join Ange , when Ange is in thin ice going into 3rd season. If things goes bad, theres no guarentee that Carrick gets the job. And once he joins Ange and loses out , his career could be in jeopardy. If Ange lost his job by Oct-Nov, why would club trust Carrick and give him the job ? Theres no certainity or safety net for Carrick
Realistically I think the idea of having an assistant who has been brought in clearly as a contingency to right the ship in the event things go shitbang with the current manager is an admission that you believe that is such a real possibility you will expend wages to mitigate against it. At which point, your manager is a dead man walking and should be sacked anyway.Michael Carrick: Middlesbrough sack head coach
Middlesbrough part company with boss Michael Carrick after two-and-a-half years in charge.
Apologies if this has already been posted and discussed ; but why wouldnt it make senes for MC to come in as assistent to AP . He’s completely grounded in English football and the EPL . He was tremendously effective as a player ( and that includes before , whilst and after playing for us) .
If the Ange post - UEFA / Europa : MC dream ticket goes very badly wrong ; Daniel could bin-off Ange and go with the new best thing . From what I’ve read he’s considered to be an excellent coach and tactician .
Last and by no means least he’s a free agent and would cost precisely nothing to bring on board .
I can well see MC eventually breaking into the big time as a manager / coach . Why shouldn’t that be with us .
Stranger things etc ….
The same thing happened at United last summer with Van Nistelrooy joining in the summer after a stint in Holland, lot of noise generated pre-Ten Hag sacking about RVN taking over to right the ship for the season, then they invited comparisons between RVN (who won all his games IIRC while he was caretaker) and Amorim (who had a properly stinking start at Utd), meaning Amorim was being somewhat unfairly measured against the guy who came in and did well with a tiny sample size vs the guy who was doing terribly with a much larger sample size just a few weeks before.
We need to just rip the plaster off and get rid of Ange.
I’ve just had a rubbish lamb kofta in my Heathrow hotel. And I’m going to Greece tomorrow.i just had an amazing chicken souvlaki pita and a mythologie lager at a greek street festival. draw your own conclusions
Fuck know what that means.
Would it be karma if you got a dose of the shits?!i just had an amazing chicken souvlaki pita and a mythologie lager at a greek street festival. draw your own conclusions
Yeah mate because every manager here in like forever has managed to win a trophy because it’s just sooooo simple and that’s why the club didn’t become synonymous with an abject failure to win anything for decades. How many finals in a row was it that Spurs didn’t just fail to win, but to even score in?
But we’ll just ignore winning a major European trophy and focus entirely on a loss to Liverpool and Leicester and Ipswich. No need for any balance, knuckle-dragging simplicity is the way forward right?
Whatever the case, you shouldn’t even be wasting time here. That statue you promised isn’t going to build itself.
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That's an interesting idea. What if Levy had sacked Ange and brought in Southgate on a short term contract to see the year out? If Southgate had played negatively and beaten that deceased Manure side in the final, would people be clamoring for Southgate to remain? He could have lost the domestic cups just as well, and he could have done no worse in the league than Ange did. Does one game make a manager or do you judge the whole body of work?
Spoken to a few Spurs fans over the past two weeks and what strikes me is that not one of them has been completely anti-Ange as some are in here.
Even at the Brighton game everyone was unsure of what we should do.
I'm not sure keeping Ange would divide the fanbase as some on here would have us believe.
Even at the Brighton game everyone was unsure of what we should do.
I'm not sure keeping Ange would divide the fanbase as some on here would have us believe.
Flesh out the hypo here, on what date did Southgate take over from Ange?
Yup this has been my experience as well both IRL and elsewhere on the internet.
Yeah mate, because playing in a CL final against Liverpool or cup finals against peak City or Chelsea is totally comparable to playing 16th placed United. Oh boy I wonder what the KEY difference was in this final. It must be the magical manager and not the drastically lower class of opposition.
A major European trophy that was won by beating England’s 16th best team in a final after knocking out AZ Alkmaar, Frankfurt and Bodo Glimt. After beating the likes of Qarabag and Elfsborg in the groups. Context is awesome isn’t it? Sort of puts the managers achievements in some perspective rather than just screaming ‘major European trophy’ repeatedly.
It’s really pretty simple. A run of beating the teams we beat in the Europa does not balance up against the run which led to 17th in the premier league. The arguments in his favour are insanely emotional based. That final was a total shitshow in terms of football quality (which is why you should keep a coach on) and then we immediately got slammed 4-1 at home to Brighton as they’re a tactically capable team.
Pointless arguing it further - may as well be talking to Charles Manson’s mates. The inevitable shitshow if he stays on is looking unavoidable.
Oh it’ll divide it when we continue to be absolutely bullied by any team in the premier league top half and some in the bottom.
What? Finished 17th with the lowest points total for Spurs in the PL?
Just Ange.