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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
It isn't narratives. The statement in the tweet was "Ange made this come 5th"

He didn't. He made it fail to win a game for 5 in a row.

He made a different arrangement of players come 5th.
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I excluded Jose and Conte because
1- they're not the norm, but your post seems to indicate that appointing Frank would be a deviation for us when in fact it's not
2- They came with glittering CVs and still achieved little except Year 1 Conte

And Ange - the Europa League with us is the only serious trophy he's ever won. So he didn't come with a hatful of Elite level success either.
Hey, if you're happy with mid table and more humiliation then I'm thrilled for you... for me, appointing Frank is unimaginative, underwhelming and an unnecessary waste of compensation... it's about as exciting as an out of date yoghurt on an Aldi shelf and will ultimately lead to him being replaced by (the new Mason) before the end of the season.
 
You’re the one being homophobic by insinuating there’s something wrong with such behaviour.

Utterly clueless you are 😂😂

I didn't insinuate anything, I asked you why do you keep referring to it and if it's the sort of thing that runs through your head all day, the fact that you thought that was derogatory says more about you

I mean someone who says this

Mate I don’t care what your middle names are.

Away and wank over your jizz covered ange shrine. Praise be! Mate.

And also this

You have daily wanks over ange you weasel fuck up

During a football chat is probably a deeply disturbed individual IMO
 
But that isn't the argument. It was:



He got sacked from Arezzo once, went back and they were relegated with him there.
At Atalanta he was shite and fell out massively with the fans and resigned with them in 19th.
With Italy he got knocked out in the quarter finals of Euro 2016.

All of these things are failures and places where he didn't win titles. As noted, what he needs is extreme when compared to pretty much other managers. He makes pep look low maintenance.

(point being, we aren't an outlier and didn't fail him - he did a decent job here but didn't really do as well as I'm sure we all hoped he might)
Quibbling over brief Serie B tenures before he had any coaching experience is total nonsense so I'll just ignore that.

What the record does show about Conte is not that he needs the richest and most dominant team in his league (he absolutely did not have that this year, for instance), but that he's unstoppable if you give him two factors:

1. Be new in the job
2. Not have midweek European fixtures to worry about

The trouble is those factors inherently go away as a result of having Conte in the job.

With minimal European interruption Conte took 79 points from his first 38 games here starting with an utter disgrace of a squad. And then he wasn't new anymore and had the Champions League to contend with, on top of the inherent poor fit factors, and nature took its course.
 
Playing 12 fewer games, including maybe only 3 midweek games?

Losing to Plymouth?

Ange finished 11 places higher than him the previous season when neither had europe and whilst we were, according to most on here, complete shit.

so.
The 1st 10 games are gone now.
He will NEVER repeat that form.
It's not just Europe that made us so shit this season, it was headed this way last season and carried on EXACTLY how we expected.
The only way to get worse now is to get relegated.
 
I excluded Jose and Conte because
1- they're not the norm, but your post seems to indicate that appointing Frank would be a deviation for us when in fact it's not
2- They came with glittering CVs and still achieved little except Year 1 Conte

And Ange - the Europa League with us is the only serious trophy he's ever won. So he didn't come with a hatful of Elite level success either.

And if you're writing off Frank at the ANCIENT age of 51, what the fuck were we doing appointing Ange at 57 despite the fact he'd never managed in a top league anywhere?


Based on their career track records, you put Jose, Conte, or Ange at Brondby, where Frank was and they win multiple trophies
 
Hey, if you're happy with mid table and more humiliation then I'm thrilled for you... for me, appointing Frank is unimaginative, underwhelming and an unnecessary waste of compensation... it's about as exciting as an out of date yoghurt on an Aldi shelf and will ultimately lead to him being replaced by (the new Mason) before the end of the season.

Mate we finished 17th and lost twice as many home games as we won. If you found scrabbling around the bottom of the table "exciting" then I don't know what else to say.
 
Yeah, fucking mental how far we have fallen. Now hiring managers who have accomplished fuck all in their careers. Sad state of affairs.

And let's be serious here.
What "accomplishment" had Ange "achieved" before coming to Spurs?
Serious question.
What even IS a trophy in Australia? I'd say utterly irrelevant. Like a non-league cup winning coach over here.
Treble with Celtic? Who cares. A cactus could do that.
 
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