Neither does keeping sack of shit in charge who freezes out youngsters and makes no change over playing shit for tens of games in a row.
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Manager Antonio Conte
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Neither does keeping sack of shit in charge who freezes out youngsters and makes no change over playing shit for tens of games in a row.
Yes Conte is making some very bad selection choices, and I've said many times I really dislike his tactics. Feels more like bad decisions under pressure, combined with stubbornness, than trying to get sacked.
Son- trying to play him into form?! I'd have benched him more.
As for Tanganga, maybe he doesn't think Sanchez is ready for 2 full games in the same week, and because he's obsessed with 3 ATB, he wants Tanganga to have some match fitness?
How do you know they're his choices?
How does anyone know which coaches got or didn't get their choices?
What is telling to me, is that Bentancur, Peresic and Kulu are automatic starters under Conte.
Bissouma, Richarlison. Lenglet, Danjuma and Spence all rot on the bench.
Maybe that tells you which ones Conte wanted and which ones Conte didn't.
Oh, of course it is not a question.
Nothing proves his undoubted love more than making up excuses why he is overplayed in table and head-to-head likes of Newcastle and Howe.
Nothing proves his commitment more than not even trying to make things better and watching stone-faced in the sidelines while with 25 minutes of 2nd half our team has 0 threatening attacks.
All the irony aside- I feel from him on the personal level. It has not been a good year for him from any way you look at it. We all are humans. But in such instance it would be honest to stand up and admit - "Look, my head is not quite right. I feel I am shaken by the events in life and I want to step back from my position to take time to recoup." Perfectly fair and honest.
But instead he does nothing and collects 7 million for nothing. And this is where my compassion ends.
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Conte has insutructed Son to drop between the opposition defense and midfield, and even midfield and attack, to receive the ball, with his back to goal and a defender trying to crawl up his backside. He has failed at this repeatedly almost without exception.
This alone a sackable offence for me.
Because we've seen how he treats players who aren't his choice, and none of them get treated like that outside of Spence, except maybe Gil before Kulu and Richy both got injured.
One of the many downsides of his tactics- 3 "strikers" and a lightweight midfield.
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The thing is, this prick has a ready made solution. Kane dropping deep. He did it to great effect last season, or he just let it happen as it was already there from the Mourinho days.
I won't go on and on but a lot of tactical options open up with that, things which would enable the 343 to work.
Bissouma, Richarlison? £100m of signings there and barley a game between them.
Lenglet, the LCB we needed in and out of the team.
All reeks of "not my choice"
Let's be serious though - if they're not his choice, he should still try them out.
Especially with how terrible Son has been.
I always felt like Richarlison was, he was involved quite quickly and he seemed enthusiastic talking about him.
Bissouma and Lenglet 100% opportunistic club signings.
All three of them played. He benched Kulu to play Richarlison out of position. He literally personally called Lenglet to convince him to join us.
This may be me reaching a bit. But hear me out.
We know that Conte can be a intense figure. And we know that our squad over the years have worked at their best under a more friendly, comforting manager figure. Jol, Poch, Redknapp etc. Guys who can be intense when called upon, but who generally took a more fathering approach to the squad.
Is Conte's intense persona an issue on game days? They looked much more comfortable playing under Stellini, who is the good cop to Conte's bad cop.
We know that Conte can be a intense figure. And we know that our squad over the years have worked at their best under a more friendly, comforting manager figure. Jol, Poch, Redknapp etc. Guys who can be intense when called upon, but who generally took a more fathering approach to the squad.
Is Conte's intense persona an issue on game days? They looked much more comfortable playing under Stellini, who is the good cop to Conte's bad cop.
And a total lack of creativity in midfield
I think the intense style of management has had its day. Players respond much better now to a more arm around the shoulder approach. As you say why we ignore what has worked for us up to a point is baffling. Jol, Redknapp, Poch much more emphasis on good football and getting on with players, they just appear more patient and tolerant as well which obviously helps with Levy. Then you have George Graham, Santini, AVB, Mourinho, Nuno and Conte. Dull football, tetchy personalities, overly intense. So add all that together and i could see Thomas Frank working well here.
They were loving life under him last season.
3 things:
1. He is without a doubt doing things differently to last season.... The Son/Kane dynamic being the most obvious.
2. The defensive unit is a shadow of what it was last season.
3. He is failing to keep them on their toes some weeks.
So what does fix it?
Its going the same way jose spell went. Had a great start and then fell apart. Then we get the same coach, different players speech.
We're not burnley or stoke and there is no need for this kind of football though especially when we can't stop conceding goals
But there is no point in sacking someone when the season is only a few months from finishing and we're still in 2 competitions and the race for top 4.
We're not burnley or stoke and there is no need for this kind of football though especially when we can't stop conceding goals
But there is no point in sacking someone when the season is only a few months from finishing and we're still in 2 competitions and the race for top 4.
I agree with you in some regard.
Conte, and his automations, have from what I've seen had an impact. To some it looks as if he is directing traffic, or conducting the orchestra. Yet for at least some part of my thinking, the constantly aggressive pointing and energetic shouting at players in a form of real life Subbuteo, would imv put the players into an uncomfortable position and negate any creative thinking from the play.
On the other hand, if we are really that bad at implementing his system, then he might need to do it.
I like Conte, he holds a certain level of respect in world football and dont think he is going to be phased out due to his style of play vs every other manager in the short to mid term (as they mostly seem more progressive than him at this level). I also like the fact he calls the club out on some things. Though, I'm really coming to the end of my teather when it comes to those impossibly late subs and stubborness towards a system when it really doesnt work for/during a game.
I think there will be a new manager in charge come the start of the new season so I doubt we'll be having this discussion for too much longer. Everything in my mind points towards him leaving this summer. But then, it'll be largely determined on if we finish top 4.
Putting anyone in charge who would have any new ideas.
And I literally mean anyone.
Including Ryan Mason.
At least I would watch games with any kind of interest. Cause it would be intriguing what I will see in the game.
Now under that boring idealess leech I know perfectly well - I can predict starting lineup; tactic and worst of all - our total apathy across the field.
One game he was not sucking life out of us, we all witnessed passionate, energetic and aggressive performance. I want more of this.
And l want less of getting humiliated by relegation fodder teams. Maybe you are next level masochist (cause on some level, all of us Spurs fans are) and want to suffer. I'd like to get something positive. Conte sure as hell cannot provide it.
Worst part is - go and put mic in front of most posters here in this forum and ask - "What are Son strenghts and how he should be used". And none would suggest to use him like Conte has.
I honestly think that people here who have watched Spurs long enough would make better choices. And this is really fucking telling.
That's why I would take ANYONE ahead of Conte at this point. It does not take a tactical genius to understand what are Son key strenghts. It does not take a tactical genius to see that our attack in 2nd half against Leicester did not work and changes could have been made before 70th minute. Also it does not take a genius to understand that bringing on Sanchez and Royal does quite little to score goals.
He is actively begging to be sacked, get compensation and have few months off.
Yet some here gladly eat the shit he serves. Don't people have any self respect at all?